2025 Colts Season Prediction Thread

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

How was that clear? AR improved his short and intermediate accuracy, and the offense moved better with him at the helm.

Jones is the "safe bet", because with him you're going to get 7-10 wins. AR is the boom or bust play. Either he fails and the Colts get a top 5 pick, or he succeeds and the Colts compete for a championship.

We agree for the most part but let’s be honest, Jones was going to play sooner than later anyway.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I think the Titans will surprise a lot of people because I think Ward will be pretty good.

The rest of the roster is about as bad as it can get, though, outside of Ridley and Simmons.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Mr. Session

9-8

They will miss the playoffs because they'll lose to Houston in must win games but Ballard will argue they had a winning record and Carlie will stand by.

They'll get another year.

I'll just predict the same thing you said, because it is the most likely outcome.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

How was that clear? AR improved his short and intermediate accuracy, and the offense moved better with him at the helm.

Jones is the "safe bet", because with him you're going to get 7-10 wins. AR is the boom or bust play. Either he fails and the Colts get a top 5 pick, or he succeeds and the Colts compete for a championship.

He had colossal fails in both preseason games, let’s be honest when he misread the coverage and dam near got his head took off the competition was over. That was against a backup defense.

Using this philosophy it was more likely gonna bust. I’d rather have the “safe guy” that can move the chains and have established clock controlling drives than the guy that goes 3 and out if he doesn’t complete a Deep bomb or turn the ball over

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

How was that clear? AR improved his short and intermediate accuracy, and the offense moved better with him at the helm.

Jones is the "safe bet", because with him you're going to get 7-10 wins. AR is the boom or bust play. Either he fails and the Colts get a top 5 pick, or he succeeds and the Colts compete for a championship.

Dude watch the PFF video in ChaosTheory post in the Colts name Daniel Jones QB1 thread.

Listen or watch comments about AR's recent performance from Kurt Warner, Pat Kerwin, Jim Miller, Chris Simms.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Dude watch the PFF video in ChaosTheory post in the Colts name Daniel Jones QB1 thread.

Listen or watch comments about AR's recent performance from Kurt Warner, Pat Kerwin, Jim Miller, Chris Simms.

AR isn't a finished product. Jones is.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by apballin

He had colossal fails in both preseason games, let’s be honest when he misread the coverage and dam near got his head took off the competition was over. That was against a backup defense.

Using this philosophy it was more likely gonna bust. I’d rather have the “safe guy” that can move the chains and have established clock controlling drives than the guy that goes 3 and out if he doesn’t complete a Deep bomb or turn the ball over

What was the colossal fail in the 2nd game? No doubt the sack play @ Balt was BAD, but Jones had his share of shit plays too. Him fumbling a snap and then air mailing a pass downfield to a wide open Warren to name 2 of them.

And speaking of playing against backups - Jones was playing against them too and was not impressive. Even when he played with most of our #1s against backups he was very much underwhelming.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

AR isn't a finished product. Jones is.

May be the case, but could just as easily be the opposite. I said I would go with AR for the ceiling and because I'm a baptism by fire type. I certainly understand the reasoning for Jones, though.

We're not in the building. I don't know if during film study, Steichen points something out or asks a question of AR and then has to close his eyes and rub the corners of his eyes exasperated because we've been over this a hundred times.

Or maybe the on-field stuff is the sole, simple answer. They don't think they can afford another season of 6-8 drive stretches of 3-and-outs sucking the life out of their own defense.

They could still believe in him, but realize continued baptism by fire A.) doesn't work for this kid, and/or B.) it's going to get them all shit canned.

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As far as Jones... I've seen enough smart people say that his situation/surroundings paint a skewed picture of him. And you can't help but notice redemption arcs like sub-60% passers Geno Smith and Sam Darnold moving from bad situations into better situations and having three straight solid seasons (Smith) and putting up MVP-type numbers (Darnold) respectively.

Jones is certainly limited, but he doesn't need to be a world-beater. More like an Alex Smith type could suffice.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

What was the colossal fail in the 2nd game? No doubt the sack play @ Balt was BAD, but Jones had his share of shit plays too. Him fumbling a snap and then air mailing a pass downfield to a wide open Warren to name 2 of them.

And speaking of playing against backups - Jones was playing against them too and was not impressive. Even when he played with most of our #1s against backups he was very much underwhelming.

The BAL misread was very bad and can't be looked at in a vacuum at this point. Luckily, he could pop a finger back in, but that's not the point. 9 times out of 10, that shot is a concussion or rib injury or broken jaw or some crazy shit.

In the second game, the 90 yard drive was nice. But the short field after the turnover was back to throwing balls in the dirt. Even his beautiful pass to Gould... It might have been O'Sullivan's breakdown showing the design of the play and how he had a hard time believing AR wasn't supposed to be looking left where the pick was.

Jones has just been steady Eddy all pre-season/camp. Yeah, he missed that deep shot and that's going to be his biggest weakness for sure. But that bald analyst in the video makes an interesting point...

He said something like 12% of NFL throws are deep balls... So AR is better at 12% of the throws and Jones is much better at the other 88%. I mean look at the breakdown they show on all throws under 20-yards. Jones' numbers are actually pretty good and AR's are beyond bad. It's a bad trade-off.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

What was the colossal fail in the 2nd game? No doubt the sack play @ Balt was BAD, but Jones had his share of shit plays too. Him fumbling a snap and then air mailing a pass downfield to a wide open Warren to name 2 of them.

And speaking of playing against backups - Jones was playing against them too and was not impressive. Even when he played with most of our #1s against backups he was very much underwhelming.

As stated above… he had a clean pocket Mitchell sets a screen on the defender guarding the RB and he wheels up the sideline wide open yet AR chose to throw it to a guy that’s double covered. Not to mention holding the ball on the RPO leading to a penalty. The missed pass to the RB in the flat.

I’m not saying Jones has been perfect either but his drives have rhythm and you can tell when he gets in a groove, that’s the biggest difference to me there is just no rhythm when AR was at QB.