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Old 08-20-2025, 09:21 PM
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How was that clear? AR improved his short and intermediate accuracy, and the offense moved better with him at the helm.

Jones is the "safe bet", because with him you're going to get 7-10 wins. AR is the boom or bust play. Either he fails and the Colts get a top 5 pick, or he succeeds and the Colts compete for a championship.
He had colossal fails in both preseason games, let’s be honest when he misread the coverage and dam near got his head took off the competition was over. That was against a backup defense.

Using this philosophy it was more likely gonna bust. I’d rather have the “safe guy” that can move the chains and have established clock controlling drives than the guy that goes 3 and out if he doesn’t complete a Deep bomb or turn the ball over
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He had colossal fails in both preseason games, let’s be honest when he misread the coverage and dam near got his head took off the competition was over. That was against a backup defense.

Using this philosophy it was more likely gonna bust. I’d rather have the “safe guy” that can move the chains and have established clock controlling drives than the guy that goes 3 and out if he doesn’t complete a Deep bomb or turn the ball over
What was the colossal fail in the 2nd game? No doubt the sack play @ Balt was BAD, but Jones had his share of shit plays too. Him fumbling a snap and then air mailing a pass downfield to a wide open Warren to name 2 of them.

And speaking of playing against backups - Jones was playing against them too and was not impressive. Even when he played with most of our #1s against backups he was very much underwhelming.
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What was the colossal fail in the 2nd game? No doubt the sack play @ Balt was BAD, but Jones had his share of shit plays too. Him fumbling a snap and then air mailing a pass downfield to a wide open Warren to name 2 of them.

And speaking of playing against backups - Jones was playing against them too and was not impressive. Even when he played with most of our #1s against backups he was very much underwhelming.
The BAL misread was very bad and can't be looked at in a vacuum at this point. Luckily, he could pop a finger back in, but that's not the point. 9 times out of 10, that shot is a concussion or rib injury or broken jaw or some crazy shit.

In the second game, the 90 yard drive was nice. But the short field after the turnover was back to throwing balls in the dirt. Even his beautiful pass to Gould... It might have been O'Sullivan's breakdown showing the design of the play and how he had a hard time believing AR wasn't supposed to be looking left where the pick was.

Jones has just been steady Eddy all pre-season/camp. Yeah, he missed that deep shot and that's going to be his biggest weakness for sure. But that bald analyst in the video makes an interesting point...

He said something like 12% of NFL throws are deep balls... So AR is better at 12% of the throws and Jones is much better at the other 88%. I mean look at the breakdown they show on all throws under 20-yards. Jones' numbers are actually pretty good and AR's are beyond bad. It's a bad trade-off.

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Old 08-21-2025, 05:48 AM
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What was the colossal fail in the 2nd game? No doubt the sack play @ Balt was BAD, but Jones had his share of shit plays too. Him fumbling a snap and then air mailing a pass downfield to a wide open Warren to name 2 of them.

And speaking of playing against backups - Jones was playing against them too and was not impressive. Even when he played with most of our #1s against backups he was very much underwhelming.
As stated above… he had a clean pocket Mitchell sets a screen on the defender guarding the RB and he wheels up the sideline wide open yet AR chose to throw it to a guy that’s double covered. Not to mention holding the ball on the RPO leading to a penalty. The missed pass to the RB in the flat.

I’m not saying Jones has been perfect either but his drives have rhythm and you can tell when he gets in a groove, that’s the biggest difference to me there is just no rhythm when AR was at QB.
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Another thing that may be interesting, regardless of what their ultimate goal with AR is...

Who says he can't have a sort of Taysom Hill-type role this season? Rather than only watching.
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Another thing that may be interesting, regardless of what their ultimate goal with AR is...

Who says he can't have a sort of Taysom Hill-type role this season? Rather than only watching.
That would be cool to see. Heck, I just want to see something.
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Another thing that may be interesting, regardless of what their ultimate goal with AR is...

Who says he can't have a sort of Taysom Hill-type role this season? Rather than only watching.
Would definitely like to see it, but I don't think Steichen is smart enough to do this effectively.
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