AR benched - Flacco to start next game

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Stiechen may have indeed called a pass play. If he did, then I would bet my ass it was a screen pass. I'm curious as to how you know that Steichen called a pass play, though ???

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It was in a Yahoo article that Chopped Wood posted in the game thread. It stated that Steichen wanted to stay aggressive, even though the Colts were on their own 12-yardline with only 34 seconds left in the half ...... and then it stated that even after the incomplete pass on 2nd down, Steichen wanted to try it again, and subbed in Tyler Goodson to throw.



QUOTE: ) With less than a minute left in the first half, Steichen was urging the offense to stay aggressive in a tie game after a Taylor run moved the ball from their own 5 to the 11. The next throw fell incomplete, but he wanted to try it again with 34 seconds left. He subbed Tyler Goodson into the game to throw.

Richardson checked out of that play, and sent Goodson out wide to throw out of empty. He stared down zone coverage and threw an interception on a hitch route that led to a touchdown and the swing moment in the loss.


https://sports.yahoo.com/10-thoughts...091811055.html



So there you have it ...... a head coach who was acting like a complete imbecile in the first place benching his quarterback for also acting like a complete imbecile in the 2nd place.

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[rm1369]

This team is completely fucking dysfunctional. AR saying nothing was explained to him about the benching, Stechein non committal about AR ever starting again (he “can’t predict the future”). They drafted an extremely raw QB prospect, start him from fucking day one, and are now showing no commitment to his growth. What an absolute fucking dumpster fire. Where are all the Ballard fans today? Still believe he’s a fucking genius?

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Stiechen may have indeed called a pass play. If he did, then I would bet my ass it was a screen pass. I'm curious as to how you know that Steichen called a pass play, though ???

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P.S. ) And if Steichen DID call for a screen play, he must have been doing so on the advice of Joe Thiesmann, who has some experience in throwing screen passes deep in his own territory in the final seconds of the 1st half ......



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fkE7OVc8Rw







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[Spike]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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It was in a Yahoo article that Chopped Wood posted in the game thread. It stated that Steichen wanted to stay aggressive, even though the Colts were on their own 12-yardline with only 34 seconds left in the half ...... and then it stated that even after the incomplete pass on 2nd down, Steichen wanted to try it again, and subbed in Tyler Goodson to throw.



QUOTE: ) With less than a minute left in the first half, Steichen was urging the offense to stay aggressive in a tie game after a Taylor run moved the ball from their own 5 to the 11. The next throw fell incomplete, but he wanted to try it again with 34 seconds left. He subbed Tyler Goodson into the game to throw.

Richardson checked out of that play, and sent Goodson out wide to throw out of empty. He stared down zone coverage and threw an interception on a hitch route that led to a touchdown and the swing moment in the loss.


https://sports.yahoo.com/10-thoughts...091811055.html



So there you have it ...... a head coach who was acting like a complete imbecile in the first place benching his quarterback for also acting like a complete imbecile in the 2nd place.

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Steichen's decision made absolutely no sense. Steichen does this shit way too often. He's terrible most of the time right before halftime. The odds were against him, just run the fucking ball dumbass. I wonder how some of these guys ever become head coaches in the NFL when they lack basic common sense. Eberflus cost the Bears a game against the Redskins too because he's a dumbass.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by rm1369

This team is completely fucking dysfunctional. AR saying nothing was explained to him about the benching, Stechein non committal about AR ever starting again (he “can’t predict the future”). They drafted an extremely raw QB prospect, start him from fucking day one, and are now showing no commitment to his growth. What an absolute fucking dumpster fire. Where are all the Ballard fans today? Still believe he’s a fucking genius?

100%!!!!!! Just heard that Steichen's statement was Flacco is the starter going forward. This season, is completely fucked, completely. This franchise is a NFL laughing stock. Bring back Jeff Saturday!!!!

So, now the couching of this buillshit is he will now grow by sitting behind Flacco, that that is where he is at in the developmental timeline.

Man---- every fucking one of you motherfuckers that wear the official Colts gear that you don't pay for but instead it is given to you as part of being a member of the organization---- EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU CAN STRAIGHT FUCK OFF!!!!

He was ready last year, in fact he was ready from day 1. He was ready this fucking year on day fucking 1. But now, nah, AR is best suited to watch and learn. So if he isn't ready, then Ballard isn't fucking ready! Fucking send that punk ass motherfucker packing--- SHIT CAN HIM!

EAT SOME TURDS! Ballard, Steichen, Jim, the whole lot of the scouting team, every last fucking one of you---- FUCK OFF!

Do the right thing- ship AR today, send him somewhere right fucking now. That way, when Flacco goes down, the ball goes back to Ehlinger and we just repeat the cycle of insanity. After this, absofucking lutely no motherfucking way you can ask AR to take that field again as a Colt.

FUCK THIS FRANCHISE!

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

So AR was supposed to go 7 step drop back into the pocket? At the snap- yeah seems like maybe that is the call- but he's supposed to stay there when Smith is absolutely getting fucking schooled by Hunter? Ok, great, stay in the pocket, it's then a 1.8 second play- as Hunter puts him on his fucking back! He vacates because Smith is getting smoked and he sees it happening so he goes left to try to get some time to set and launch.

Yeah, I agree, interesting and good scheme by the Texans to overload and basically force AR to go left which is going to require more time to plant and launch= smart- which would again to me, says that Shane Steichen isn't as good as the opposing coach.

No, sorry, Nelson got schooled too. He didn't need to help- there were fucking 6 dudes to cover up 3 rushers! FUCK! 6 vs 3 and no extra blitzers coming in a gap- fucking catch the dude crossing you- it isn't that deep. So we needed 3 to block Autry (not that JT does absolutely fucking anything- which is common for him in the passing game). If so, then hell yeah shame on Ballard for letting a dude that needs 3 blockers go (which I think we've all been pissed he let him go...).

Just a disgrace. None of these dudes should be excused for how shitty they played, none of them.

This is not a hill to die on, and this doesn't exonerate the OL for the rest of the game. I'm only in the 1st quarter of the tape, so we'll see how they actually did. It's also a Hail Mary that we're only having to attempt because our QB has thrown for 31% completions. You're just so animated about this particular play.

Smith did not get smoked by Hunter. He was 13 yards upfield. You're acting like he turned the corner on Smith and crashing the pocket. 13 yards and he sees AR heading for the sideline so he stays lateral and runs away from Smith.

And Nelson didn't get schooled, either. What the fuck are you talking about? If anything, Raimann was the one to blame. Nelson's got no one on him, so he helps Kelly who is solo on Autry. He does that kind of shit all the time. Now we want him to just sit there and watch? You're fixated on him being off balance or something... Yeah, dude helps inside and at the exact same moment, Anderson comes flying laterally across the line from the slot and he tries to reach him.

Again, he's flying across laterally because AR is gone. It's a Hail Mary for God's sake, it's not going to be the prettiest play, by default. You can run away and launch it quick, or you're likely going to have to dance a little and use your blockers.

Look at the Aaron Rodgers Lions HM. If he keeps drifting left, he's dead or he has to launch it quick. He cuts back towards the defender so his blockers can take them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0vVqStvh_8&t=17s

I'm going to keep watching the tape on AR's "best day throwing."

[ChoppedWood]

Jimmy King and Nate Atkins talking.

Atkins would not say this is an Irsay call though he did say the situation here has shifted, somewhere they have determined this is a win now team.

Whoever they is, or the individual that is viewing this team as a win now team and thus forcing this decision, that person or people, need to be terminated and never allowed to be involved in football again at any level. This an absolutely everything possible goes perfect- make it in as a WC and get bounced in game 1 team.

Presumptively this IS Jim. He has to be feeling the heat of a fan base blood thirsty for the playoffs and is forcing this to appease them- has to be. Can't be Ballard- he himself has already said if AR goes bust, he won't get a chance to pick the next one, so he has to be against this since he will almost certainly lose his job because of this. I don't see it being Steichen. While I have grown to question his coaching, I struggle to think a guy this close to it, who is with this group for every damn rep, would delude himself to believe that Flacco suddenly makes this team a contender. If he does think that, wow, he might be THAT bad at this thing!

So if it is Jim and he is just pig headed that we need to make the PO's, sadly to me this is badly misreading the room. Sure there are those that are in the we need to win right now group, but to me they are a minority. The overwhelming majority of the fans would much rather see a team with AR out there trying to get better and making crazy episodic highlights even if we suck. This fan base DOES NOT want to be a mid team that just muddles on the same mediocre treadmill- which is exactly what this move almost certainly re-creates. That's not intended to knock Flacco, he has proven to be a great fill in QB. It's more a reflection of the fans being able to see the future and not liking it. And if that is true, fuck, scary that the fans would have more foresight than the owner, but ultimately maybe that is the case.

[rm1369]

If this was a win now team it should have been a win now team during the offseason (it wasn’t) and it should have been a win now team before they were 3 games back in the division (it wasn’t). They have never been a win now team under Ballard, yet for some reason now they supposedly are? I’m not sure they could mismanage this shit any more if they had tried.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by rm1369

If this was a win now team it should have been a win now team during the offseason (it wasn’t) and it should have been a win now team before they were 3 games back in the division (it wasn’t). They have never been a win now team under Ballard, yet for some reason now they supposedly are? I’m not sure they could mismanage this shit any more if they had tried.

Yep, precisely the rant Jimmy King went on as well.

[apballin]

Also heard JMV said he’s heard that AR shows up late for meetings and his work ethic factored into the decision

Also saying he was hurt on the play and gave that answer in the presser to avoid the injury prone stuff