Doyle on Kaepernick

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Originally Posted by rm1369

I’m a vet and I can tell you military status has very little to do with your view on kneeling. In fact a poll on VA.org shows 49% to 45% don’t view kneeling as disrespectful. As I’ve pointed out, the cross over between those who think kneeling is disrespectful, those who think removing confederate statues is wrong (people who killed US soldiers), and those supporting anti-CRT legislation is very, very high. That same group also largely supported a president who started making a name for himself by using race and you can clearly see it with their current politicians doing just what Atwater said. So it’s not about race, but coincidentally they keep consistently coming out on the side that racists do.

And you know what else isn’t really that long ago? The civil rights movement, Jim Crow, and lynchings. But that same group pretends that’s ancient history, so spare me on WWII - where African Americans were sent to die and then denied GI Bills their white counterparts received. If you care about the flag but not the people it represents you aren’t a fucking patriot. Doesn’t make anyone racist, just indifferent and selfish.

Also, CRT is Marxist inspired horseshit that has no business being taught in our schools, except maybe colleges.

CRT has very little to do with history. It, by its own definition, seeks to examine the societal and institutional dynamics that created what THEY view as a fundamentally and irredeemably racist society.

I don’t think this country is fundamentally and irredeemably racist and I sure as hell don’t want to teach our kids that.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Also, CRT is Marxist inspired horseshit that has no business being taught in our schools, except maybe colleges.

CRT has very little to do with history. It, by its own definition, seeks to examine the societal and institutional dynamics that created what THEY view as a fundamentally and irredeemably racist society.

I don’t think this country is fundamentally and irredeemably racist and I sure as hell don’t want to teach our kids that.

CRT is a college level theory looking at how race and our institutions are intertwined. Your description sounds like it’s right off FOX News. Not surprisingly the Republican Party has their followers believing it is regularly taught in grade schools. It’s racist propaganda horseshit. Again, Atwater 100%. Not surprisingly the same group that cried we were “erasing history” by removing statues (of people who fought against our ohh so precious flag to maintain slavery) are now whitewashing history.

I’m sure you don’t want your kids taught that slavery was enshrined in the constitution or the reasons for the 3/5ths compromise, about the trail of tears, black Wall Street or the Tulsa riots. You want to pretend race isn’t a historical issue? While lecturing me on not how long ago WWII is? We wouldn’t want to make white kids uncomfortable would we? But black kids should suck it up when their community CELEBRATES a traitorous confederate soldier who fought to keep them enslaved. I’m sure race doesn’t enter into that logic, does it?

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Originally Posted by rm1369

CRT is a college level theory looking at how race and our institutions are intertwined. Your description sounds like it’s right off FOX News. Not surprisingly the Republican Party has their followers believing it is regularly taught in grade schools. It’s racist propaganda horseshit. Again, Atwater 100%. Not surprisingly the same group that cried we were “erasing history” by removing statues (of people who fought against our ohh so precious flag to maintain slavery) are now whitewashing history.

I’m sure you don’t want your kids taught that slavery was enshrined in the constitution or the reasons for the 3/5ths compromise, about the trail of tears, black Wall Street or the Tulsa riots. You want to pretend race isn’t a historical issue? While lecturing me on not how long ago WWII is? We wouldn’t want to make white kids uncomfortable would we? But black kids should suck it up when their community CELEBRATES a traitorous confederate soldier who fought to keep them enslaved. I’m sure race doesn’t enter into that logic, does it?

I was paraphrasing on the description but I got it from critical race theory-an introduction, a book written by 2 people who were involved in its founding. And my description wasn’t THAT different from yours, so I don’t know where you got the Fox News bit.

And yes, CRT has been taught in colleges for a long time now. The bills I’ve read seek to prevent it being taught earlier.

I’m not sure it’s necessary, but a lot of stuff gets passed that isn’t necessary.

As for the 3/5ths compromise, the trail of tears, and the Tulsa race riots, I learned all about that stuff when I went to school in the 90’s, so I’m not sure what exactly is being “whitewashed”?