Frank reich is horrible

[apballin]

When you’re up 14-0 I don’t care if it’s Taylor, Hines, Mack, or whoever run the goddam ball and can we scrap the Goal line shovel to a TE?

Reich is starting to become predictably unpredictable at the goal line and it’s not necessary we have the best guard in the league- inside the 5 should be run left every time

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by apballin

When you’re up 14-0 I don’t care if it’s Taylor, Hines, Mack, or whoever run the goddam ball and can we scrap the Goal line shovel to a TE?

Reich is starting to become predictably unpredictable at the goal line and it’s not necessary we have the best guard in the league- inside the 5 should be run left every time

Put two of those RBs in the game and go wishbone for all I care.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

When you’re up 14-0 I don’t care if it’s Taylor, Hines, Mack, or whoever run the goddam ball and can we scrap the Goal line shovel to a TE?

Reich is starting to become predictably unpredictable at the goal line and it’s not necessary we have the best guard in the league- inside the 5 should be run left every time

Taylor has had 20 carries in goal to go situations:

4 negative runs for -11 yards
7 runs for no gain
7 positive runs for 17 yards, 3 TDs
2 penalties for -16 yards

Wentz and Hines also each have a rush resulting in 3 yards and a TD

There have been 26 passing attempts resulting in:

8 TDs
1 penalty for -10 yards
1 interception
1 sack for -9 yards
1 sack/fumble

The interception was after a Taylor run for 0 yards

The sack for -9 yards was on 4th down after 3 straight Taylor runs for 0 yards each.

The sack / fumble was after a Taylor run for -2 yards

The penalty was on first down before Taylor had a chance. They scored a TD that possession throwing

Reich started the season attempting to pound it at the goal line and the results weren’t encouraging. 9 of Taylor’s 20 attempts came in the first 2 games. The results?

0 yards gained
0 TDs
2 penalties for -16 yards

Nelson was also in the lineup for both of those games. 8 passing attempts netted 3TDs during that time as well as a sack and the interception.

The point? The Colts have had more goal line issues than can be solved by just hand it to Taylor. That’s the way Reich started the season and it failed. They actually scored a TD in every goal to go situation against Tenn so I’d say there has been significant improvement. Not to mention Nelson has been banged up, missed games, and hasn’t been himself for most of the season yet. Great thought but I don’t think it matches reality.

I agree on the TE shovel pass though.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by rm1369

Taylor has had 20 carries in goal to go situations:

4 negative runs for -11 yards
7 runs for no gain
7 positive runs for 17 yards, 3 TDs
2 penalties for -16 yards

Wentz and Hines also each have a rush resulting in 3 yards and a TD

There have been 26 passing attempts resulting in:

8 TDs
1 penalty for -10 yards
1 interception
1 sack for -9 yards
1 sack/fumble

The interception was after a Taylor run for 0 yards

The sack for -9 yards was on 4th down after 3 straight Taylor runs for 0 yards each.

The sack / fumble was after a Taylor run for -2 yards

The penalty was on first down before Taylor had a chance. They scored a TD that possession throwing

Reich started the season attempting to pound it at the goal line and the results weren’t encouraging. 9 of Taylor’s 20 attempts came in the first 2 games. The results?

0 yards gained
0 TDs
2 penalties for -16 yards

Nelson was also in the lineup for both of those games. 8 passing attempts netted 3TDs during that time as well as a sack and the interception.

The point? The Colts have had more goal line issues than can be solved by just hand it to Taylor. That’s the way Reich started the season and it failed. They actually scored a TD in every goal to go situation against Tenn so I’d say there has been significant improvement. Not to mention Nelson has been banged up, missed games, and hasn’t been himself for most of the season yet. Great thought but I don’t think it matches reality.

I agree on the TE shovel pass though.

You made my point at the end so comparing early seasons stats to current situation doesn’t play in this situation, Nelson wasn’t healthy.. since he’s returned goal line hasn’t been an issue other than stupid shovel pass or Wentz fumbling

Taylor should be the focal point, Ballard has built the early 2000s Seahawks all over, it’s Shaun Alexander all over again behind his line he won an mvp running left every time

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

You made my point at the end so comparing early seasons stats to current situation doesn’t play in this situation, Nelson wasn’t healthy.. since he’s returned goal line hasn’t been an issue other than stupid shovel pass or Wentz fumbling

Taylor should be the focal point, Ballard has built the early 2000s Seahawks all over, it’s Shaun Alexander all over again behind his line he won an mvp running left every time

The shovel pass was in the 2nd game (with Nelson) as was all those runs that resulted in nothing. The most recent success in the goal line has featured more passing. Against Tenn there were 3 passing TDs and one running. You are trying to make the reality fit your narrative. It doesn’t.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by rm1369

The shovel pass was in the 2nd game (with Nelson) as was all those runs that resulted in nothing. The most recent success in the goal line has featured more passing. Against Tenn there were 3 passing TDs and one running. You are trying to make the reality fit your narrative. It doesn’t.

Bullshit, easily could’ve run it in on the first drive. No what do we do? Let Taylor run it to the 2 yard line— 3 incompletions only to convert on 4th down

2nd TD after an INT we pass on first and goal

Taylor got stuffed earlier in the season when Nelson wasn’t healthy it’s a different situation now and when you’re up 14-0 it’s not even a discussion

Nelson is a weapon that should be utilized to our advantage, same with Taylor stop making it easy for the defense

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

Bullshit, easily could’ve run it in on the first drive. No what do we do? Let Taylor run it to the 2 yard line— 3 incompletions only to convert on 4th down

2nd TD after an INT we pass on first and goal

Taylor got stuffed earlier in the season when Nelson wasn’t healthy it’s a different situation now and when you’re up 14-0 it’s not even a discussion

Nelson is a weapon that should be utilized to our advantage, same with Taylor stop making it easy for the defense

Taylor had two rushes in goal to go situations against the 49ers the other game with Nelson. One for 0 yards, one for -2 yards. The wentz sack / fumble was the play after the 2 yard loss. So in the 4 games with Nelson (he only played 13 snaps in 1st Tenn game) here are the results:

12 plays
-1 yards gained
1 TD
2 penalties for -16 yards

The one TD was admittedly the most recent play - the last TD against Tenn. I’m guessing he was obviously healthy for that play, but not the other 11. Of course he missed practice yesterday and his status for Thursday is up in the air. If he plays is he obviously healthy or not? Or do you want to wait to use the play results to decide as you are doing here?

And that’s not to mention the Colts were 4 for 4 in goal situations in the game you are complaining about. 3 of the TDs required just 1 play - 2 were passes, 1 was a Taylor run. None of the data backs up your claims. You are simply throwing out the simplistic view that Nelson and Taylor are good so those situations are easy. Other teams have some pretty damn good players too and others teams also know that Nelson and Taylor are good.

Being predictable is what makes it easy on a defense. I personally think Pittman and MAC are weapons at the goal line just as much as Taylor. Same with Wentz’s legs. Utilizing all of them (and other options) is what will make life difficult on a defense. Not handing it to Taylor every time.

[albany ed]

I seem to recall the negative draft scuttlebutt on Taylor was that he had a huge number of carries in College. I really believe that power backs USUALLY have a limited number of carries before wearing down. I like seeing him used, but using Hines and Mack and giving him some down time is a good move IMO. If the Colts can manage to get a wild card playoff spot, he'll be needed big time.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by rm1369

Taylor had two rushes in goal to go situations against the 49ers the other game with Nelson. One for 0 yards, one for -2 yards. The wentz sack / fumble was the play after the 2 yard loss. So in the 4 games with Nelson (he only played 13 snaps in 1st Tenn game) here are the results:

12 plays
-1 yards gained
1 TD
2 penalties for -16 yards

The one TD was admittedly the most recent play - the last TD against Tenn. I’m guessing he was obviously healthy for that play, but not the other 11. Of course he missed practice yesterday and his status for Thursday is up in the air. If he plays is he obviously healthy or not? Or do you want to wait to use the play results to decide as you are doing here?

And that’s not to mention the Colts were 4 for 4 in goal situations in the game you are complaining about. 3 of the TDs required just 1 play - 2 were passes, 1 was a Taylor run. None of the data backs up your claims. You are simply throwing out the simplistic view that Nelson and Taylor are good so those situations are easy. Other teams have some pretty damn good players too and others teams also know that Nelson and Taylor are good.

Being predictable is what makes it easy on a defense. I personally think Pittman and MAC are weapons at the goal line just as much as Taylor. Same with Wentz’s legs. Utilizing all of them (and other options) is what will make life difficult on a defense. Not handing it to Taylor every time.

I have no problem with them mixing it up on offense, unless your up 14-0. I just feel like we played right into the Titans hands when it was a nightmare scenario for them in the beginning

But with all that said unless it’s Aaron Donald I’m running left 4 times inside the 5 yard line with Nelson that should be unstoppable