Ballard and Steichen are coming back

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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Thanks again, but he is in Dam mode ...... he's not wrong, no matter how much evidence you exhibit to the contrary.

Let him have the last word, as ridiculous as his defense of Grigson is.

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Not about right or wrong, when I’m wrong I’ll own up to it and give credit unlike you.

You were shitty just like everyone else that Jones was starting and you even went as far to say you’re glad I’m not running the franchise when I said starting Jones was the right call.

Now you’re bringing up Grigson I have no idea how this subject even comes up right now

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by apballin

You were shitty just like everyone else that Jones was starting, and you even went as far to say you’re glad I’m not running the franchise when I said starting Jones was the right call.

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I was wrong about wanting to Richardson start over Jones, just like I was wrong about asserting that Case Keenum would have a longer and more distinguished career than Andrew Luck. And I never denied that I was wrong in either case ...... unlike you, I don't dig my heels in when I say something that is preponderously wrong, as I was in both of those cases.

And yes, I am glad that I am not running the franchise because I am nowhere near qualified to do so. Whatever good that I might do would probably be far outweighed by my mistakes.

I brought up Grigson because Chromeburn essentially described him to a tee in a post about GM's staying on because they lucked into getting an all-world quarterback, and 3 posters (YDFL Commish, Racehorse and Chromeburn) thanked said post ...... that is why I brought up Grigson, and it was very apt.

You felt the need to defend Grigson, and you repeatedly stuck by that defense even though several posters made your position look ridiculous ....... so the fact that you made yourself look dubious is your own doing.

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[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by apballin

My point is how do you measure a good GM?

How their drafted players pan out?

Win loss record?

Grigson won the division and went to the playoffs nearly every year. Year 3 AFC Championship is still impressive

Hard to draft great players when you’re in the back half of the draft every year.

That's a great question, and honestly I think the best answer is the personnel decisions they make. If the decisions the GM makes make the roster better, they're doing a good job. If the decisions the GM makes either do nothing to improve the roster or make it worse, they're doing a bad job. Yes, the Colts got to the AFC Championship Game in 2014, but that was a generational QB in Andrew Luck dragging a wholly outmatched roster that far on his sheer talent alone. Most of Grigson's personnel decisions deteriorated the quality of the roster. Most of Ballard’s personnel decisions have improved the quality of the roster. Of course there are a few hits you could point to for Grigson, and a few misses for Ballard, but generally speaking, the quality of the roster did nothing but deteriorate from 2012 under Grigson and the quality of the roster has done nothing but improve since 2017 under Ballard.

[YDFL Commish]

I would put Grigson's 1st draft up against any of Ballard's drafts. The problem was that he got the big head after that, while Irsay entitled him and Grigson did nothing right after that.

Also his house cleaning of 2011 roster was a total disrespect to the players who could still contribute. He should have kept Bethea and Garcon and maybe others.

Dakich is the only dumbass that thinks that Grigson was a good GM, so fuck him. I won't debate on basketball, he knows his shit there, but stay out of foobtall analysis, because the average CF member is superior to you.

Another thing is, I for one, have never called for Ballard or Steichen's heads. I have challenged Steichen for chasing points early in games, as has C&O, I do believe. I have also challenged his propensity for cutsie/trick plays. In Ballard's case, I have challenged his team building at times. His devotion to his drafted rookies has been borderline dumb. His handling of the O-Line in 2022 was a fire-able offense IMO, although I also believe that Chris Strausser and Frank Reich were equally to blame.

Bottom line! I see this franchise in totally different light under Carlie. I think, but have know way of knowing, that she is challenging everyone in the building, ever single day. I think, but have know way of knowing that you can see that in their collective demeanor.

This is all about football baby! Not about dreams, collectibles or rock buddies. This what we were built for god damn it!

[Colts And Orioles]

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Speaking of being wrong, one of my favorite lines is from Rudyard Kipling's poem, If ...... l "If you can meet with triumph and disaster, and treat those 2 impostors just the same."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7v7rzDhG-4

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[apballin]

Let the record also show I said Brian price would be better than Ndnmakung Suh

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

I would put Grigson's 1st draft up against any of Ballard's drafts. The problem was that he got the big head after that, while Irsay entitled him and Grigson did nothing right after that.

Also his house cleaning of 2011 roster was a total disrespect to the players who could still contribute. He should have kept Bethea and Garcon and maybe others.

Dakich is the only dumbass that thinks that Grigson was a good GM, so fuck him. I won't debate on basketball, he knows his shit there, but stay out of foobtall analysis, because the average CF member is superior to you.

Another thing is, I for one, have never called for Ballard or Steichen's heads. I have challenged Steichen for chasing points early in games, as has C&O, I do believe. I have also challenged his propensity for cutsie/trick plays. In Ballard's case, I have challenged his team building at times. His devotion to his drafted rookies has been borderline dumb. His handling of the O-Line in 2022 was a fire-able offense IMO, although I also believe that Chris Strausser and Frank Reich were equally to blame.

Bottom line! I see this franchise in totally different light under Carlie. I think, but have know way of knowing, that she is challenging everyone in the building, ever single day. I think, but have know way of knowing that you can see that in their collective demeanor.

This is all about football baby! Not about dreams, collectibles or rock buddies. This what we were built for god damn it!

He was gifted a franchise QB and, as someone else already stated, I would credit Telesco with the success of that draft moreso than Grigson.

That said, Ballard’s 2018 and 2020 classes are far superior to anything Grigson ever did.

[YDFL Commish]

Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, TY Hilton, Vick Ballard, Josh Chapman.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, TY Hilton, Vick Ballard, Josh Chapman.

Quenton Nelson, Darius Leonard, Braden Smith, Tyquan Lewis, Nyheim Hines, Zaire Franklin

DeForest Buckner, Michael Pittman, Jr., Jonathan Taylor, Julian Blackmon, Danny Pinter, Isaiah Rodgers

[Mr. Session]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Bottom line! I see this franchise in totally different light under Carlie. I think, but have know way of knowing, that she is challenging everyone in the building, ever single day. I think, but have know way of knowing that you can see that in their collective demeanor.

My wife decided to sit in with me and watch the later part of the game and asked what is up with the team this year.

I started rambling shit off because a lot of things change year to year but then the camera cut to Carlie and I had to admit I think that may be the biggest factor of all.

My gut tells me the same thing you're saying here.