Should we be Sellers?

[MeSayDayo]

Does the news of Sam starting for us shout to the rest of the league "TANK"?

I would imagine that Chris Ballard's phone has been a lot busier than normal today. Most pro-bowlers in the league last year, ready to trot out ole Sam? Trade deadline looming?

Lets all talk about which players should go first and why- taking emotion out of it. Now that the Colts have shown their long term hand very clearly in one swift move to Sam, who (if anyone) now becomes expendable?

Don't tell me we are a RG or LT away from competing and that we should be be buyers. Willing to start Sam with a 5-5 record tell you everything about what our brass is willing to risk, so why not complete this rebuild with a move or two?

Personally I think it may only take one major move to give us enough capital to load up for 2023 draft.

1. Leonard - Injury prone, a mental health grenade on a MASSIVE deal for his position. 230 pounds soaking wet in a snowsuit. If someone offered us a package for him I would have to consider it- he likely wont play until he is 30, because, well, its OKAY to NOT BE OKAY. Any draft pick with a 1 or 2 or both and I am saying thanks to Shaq

2.JT- Hate this. I love JT and can only imagine what he will do in this league for the next 5 or 6 years barring injury. He's a baller and a straight stud.
But that is the rub- he is only going to be impactful for 5-6 years. If you can net a package like CMC (or likely better now....like a 1,2,3) then you have to consider it. This is purely a "RB is expendable" type of move, unfortunately. I consider this move more strongly now that I saw the haul Carolina got for CMC...he set a clear needy market out there for contending teams. Where you at Eagles, Rams and Bills?

3. Buckner - Aging, still very impactful, but also maybe more expendable given the shocking emergence of Big Grove who may now be our best defensive lineman and maybe even best defensive player period. If I can get a 2nd and 4th for Buck I would have to listen.

Interested to hear more candidates...

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by MeSayDayo

Does the news of Sam starting for us shout to the rest of the league "TANK"?

I would imagine that Chris Ballard's phone has been a lot busier than normal today. Most pro-bowlers in the league last year, ready to trot out ole Sam? Trade deadline looming?

Lets all talk about which players should go first and why- taking emotion out of it. Now that the Colts have shown their long term hand very clearly in one swift move to Sam, who (if anyone) now becomes expendable?

Don't tell me we are a RG or LT away from competing and that we should be be buyers. Willing to start Sam with a 5-5 record tell you everything about what our brass is willing to risk, so why not complete this rebuild with a move or two?

Personally I think it may only take one major move to give us enough capital to load up for 2023 draft.

1. Leonard - Injury prone, a mental health grenade on a MASSIVE deal for his position. 230 pounds soaking wet in a snowsuit. If someone offered us a package for him I would have to consider it- he likely wont play until he is 30, because, well, its OKAY to NOT BE OKAY. Any draft pick with a 1 or 2 or both and I am saying thanks to Shaq

2.JT- Hate this. I love JT and can only imagine what he will do in this league for the next 5 or 6 years barring injury. He's a baller and a straight stud.
But that is the rub- he is only going to be impactful for 5-6 years. If you can net a package like CMC (or likely better now....like a 1,2,3) then you have to consider it. This is purely a "RB is expendable" type of move, unfortunately. I consider this move more strongly now that I saw the haul Carolina got for CMC...he set a clear needy market out there for contending teams. Where you at Eagles, Rams and Bills?

3. Buckner - Aging, still very impactful, but also maybe more expendable given the shocking emergence of Big Grove who may now be our best defensive lineman and maybe even best defensive player period. If I can get a 2nd and 4th for Buck I would have to listen.

Interested to hear more candidates...

I don't sell shit. This team is talented, and for the most part, talented with young guys that have big promise. If Sam goes off which is unlikely, but if he does, then this team can suddenly become a long term force with a real chance to be consistent contender. If he sucks, get a stud QB, next year will be rough, but after that, with all these weapons and what looks like a loaded ass D for a while- we can be real serious again.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

I don't sell shit. This team is talented, and for the most part, talented with young guys that have big promise. If Sam goes off which is unlikely, but if he does, then this team can suddenly become a long term force with a real chance to be consistent contender. If he sucks, get a stud QB, next year will be rough, but after that, with all these weapons and what looks like a loaded ass D for a while- we can be real serious again.

Doug Williams
Jeff Hostetler
Mark Rypien
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Joe Flacco
Nick Foles

Here's a few SB winning QB's not named Brady, Montana, Aikmen or Manning!! The QB doesn't have to be all pro to make it, he does however have to be adequate, and I'm guessing that's what the Colt's are hoping Ellinger is...................adequate !!!!!!

[Luck4Reich]

Who says Sam isn't a big upgrade over Ryan and Wentz?

I for one will wait and see what he does first.

[omahacolt]

depends on who and what for.


i never understood just shit canning all your young talent

[Dewey 5]

I don't know about selling off the talent but it is time to fire the dipshit twins.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

depends on who and what for.


i never understood just shit canning all your young talent

Same, having YOUNG talent shortens the rebuild. Why trade away a proven YOUNG player for a draft pick that may, or may not work out.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

...all these weapons and what looks like a loaded ass D for a while- we can be real serious again.

Yeah, we like all this talent, all these weapons, and this loaded D but we can't wait to start up the Fire-Ballard train again.

[CletusPyle]

I would sell Leonard in a heart beat, but not JT or Buckner!

[MDcolt]

Originally Posted by Luck4Reich

Who says Sam isn't a big upgrade over Ryan and Wentz?

I for one will wait and see what he does first.

He will not be worse than Ryan. Ryan has been historically bad this year.