Colts-Titans quick thoughts

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by rcubed

I feel bad for wilkins, it seems like whenever he finally gets in the game, he rips off a nice run and its called back on a penalty

I really like Wilkins. He gets his nose down hill and gets positive results

[omahacolt]

I did a rewatch of the condensed game on game pass.

To me Odum had 3 bad plays.

1) the hit out of bounds. Stupid play
2) 1st quarter he got ran over by Henry
3). That atrocious missed tackle that he seemed to get benched for.

The rest of the game he was fine. If you want to judge that as a bad game then ok. Played 53% of the snaps. 2 terrible plays in that time is not acceptable.

Young guys mess up though and calling for him to be cut or saying he is terrible is nonsense to me.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by JAFF

I really like Wilkins. He gets his nose down hill and gets positive results

Needs to work on that ball security. he had an issue in college as well. They all do really. Can't carry it out in space like in college. Will get knocked out. That said, I like his style and I think he makes a good 1-2 punch with Mack.

[southside asshole]

I don't have much to add this week. I decided after last week that starting my own analysis threads doesn't really contribute much to the user experience here, and splitting discussion between threads is counter-productive.

That, and once again I'm coming to this late, and much has already been said.

Overall it was a very sloppy game. Officiating is balls these days, but a lot of those calls were legitimate. If not for the Titans offense basically consisting of Henry and literally zero other things, I think the score would have been way, way closer. Between all the penalties and the stupid, unnecessary turnovers (c'mon Luck, you're up 2 TDs in the first half, WTF are you doing man), that same team with an operational QB would have made us pay.

I'll rewatch the game again later on, and if I've got anything to add that no one has mentioned, I'll post it.

Going into the postseason, I have some concerns.

I think I still like the matchup vs. Hou. Not looking past them - no game will be easy, but the strength of the Colts D pairs well with the offense the Texans run. We have a young and enthusiastic defense who have bitten (and will probably continue to bite) on some misdirection, which Houston will certainly use, but those plays don't tend to be game-breakers the same way a 60-yard bomb can be. Deshaun Watson's accuracy and decision-making from the pocket don't scare me nearly as much as QBs down the line if we win, god willing. Our offense should continue to function. Our line is a match for their rush, and they don't have the secondary to emulate Jacksonville (who just play man all day and don't give a fuck). Hilton's mobility is a concern on that ankle, but between Hines, Ebron, Innman, and other guys who will find themselves open from time to time purely by virtue of their unimportance, Luck will have targets.

If we do get past Houston, there are some AFC QBs who will be waiting to do not-nice things to our soft zone stuff. We've enjoyed the luxury of daring QBs to take the underneath and play mistake-free ball, and against young running QBs behind iffy lines, that works well. Against a Rivers, Brady, Mahomes? Ehh. Better to just focus on Houston right now.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by FatDT

No, I’d rather he play well enough to earn WR2, that would be crazy good value. Why would you not hope for him to succeed? Maybe I don’t understand what you are saying.

And what if you don’t make an upgrade and Cain sucks? Get viable upgrades at WR2 and WR3 and if Cain wins the spot, then all the better. Just don’t go into the offseason counting on him to be anything more than your 4th or 5th receiver.

[nate505]

That Luck pick was so so bad and inexcusable.

Thankfully he didn't let it rattle him for the rest of the game. I like it when Luck makes his totally boneheaded mistake early in the game.

All that being said, I'm beyond thrilled with his overall performance this year.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

I did a rewatch of the condensed game on game pass.

To me Odum had 3 bad plays.

1) the hit out of bounds. Stupid play
2) 1st quarter he got ran over by Henry
3). That atrocious missed tackle that he seemed to get benched for.

The rest of the game he was fine. If you want to judge that as a bad game then ok. Played 53% of the snaps. 2 terrible plays in that time is not acceptable.

Young guys mess up though and calling for him to be cut or saying he is terrible is nonsense to me.

Yet you call for people to be cut for less all the time.

[nate505]

Originally Posted by Chaka

Outstanding commentary again - thank you GBB.

Numbers 16 might be the most interesting one to me - it wasn't so long ago that everyone was calling for Kenny Moore's head. He was the Nyheim Hines of last year's preseason (not to mention an undrafted free agent castoff from the Patriots). How far he's come is amazing and should be an inspiration for any other players who aren't drafted and who struggle at first.

Number 6 is also a big change in attitude from last year, when some fans suggested TY was soft.

How far we have come since last season.

I admit I was one of the idiots who was saying he should be cut for his special teams blunders like last year or two years ago (at my age, time starts to become less distinct).

Which is why I'm glad I'm an idiot fan and not someone who makes real football decisions. Moore has been outstanding this year. Kudos to him, and I hope he gets a nice contract for his efforts.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by nate505

I admit I was one of the idiots who was saying he should be cut for his special teams blunders like last year or two years ago (at my age, time starts to become less distinct).

Which is why I'm glad I'm an idiot fan and not someone who makes real football decisions. Moore has been outstanding this year. Kudos to him, and I hope he gets a nice contract for his efforts.

Yup, fans overreact. Then learn their lesson. Then forget the lesson and overreact again.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by southside asshole

I don't have much to add this week. I decided after last week that starting my own analysis threads doesn't really contribute much to the user experience here, and splitting discussion between threads is counter-productive.

That, and once again I'm coming to this late, and much has already been said.

Overall it was a very sloppy game. Officiating is balls these days, but a lot of those calls were legitimate. If not for the Titans offense basically consisting of Henry and literally zero other things, I think the score would have been way, way closer. Between all the penalties and the stupid, unnecessary turnovers (c'mon Luck, you're up 2 TDs in the first half, WTF are you doing man), that same team with an operational QB would have made us pay.

I'll rewatch the game again later on, and if I've got anything to add that no one has mentioned, I'll post it.

Going into the postseason, I have some concerns.

I think I still like the matchup vs. Hou. Not looking past them - no game will be easy, but the strength of the Colts D pairs well with the offense the Texans run. We have a young and enthusiastic defense who have bitten (and will probably continue to bite) on some misdirection, which Houston will certainly use, but those plays don't tend to be game-breakers the same way a 60-yard bomb can be. Deshaun Watson's accuracy and decision-making from the pocket don't scare me nearly as much as QBs down the line if we win, god willing. Our offense should continue to function. Our line is a match for their rush, and they don't have the secondary to emulate Jacksonville (who just play man all day and don't give a fuck). Hilton's mobility is a concern on that ankle, but between Hines, Ebron, Innman, and other guys who will find themselves open from time to time purely by virtue of their unimportance, Luck will have targets.

If we do get past Houston, there are some AFC QBs who will be waiting to do not-nice things to our soft zone stuff. We've enjoyed the luxury of daring QBs to take the underneath and play mistake-free ball, and against young running QBs behind iffy lines, that works well. Against a Rivers, Brady, Mahomes? Ehh. Better to just focus on Houston right now.

Good stuff. Don't sell your contribution short. Everybody likes new content to read.

What scares me about the Texans is Watson's PA and bootleg ability. We got exposed a bit by Eli, he was ripping us up with those bootlegs. Watson is much better at it. We will see a lot of it.

After him yes the QB's do get much better. Brady's short game will dink and dunk down the field with no problem. Pressure is a must on Brady, otherwise, he won't make mistakes. Mahomes also bootlegs well and is super accurate on the run. Rivers is experienced and they have a balanced team. Just Balt doesn't scare me much passing wise, but that offense is weird and opportunistic.