quick thoughts on the terrible titans game

[PowayColt]

Some are saying we would have won this game with a healthy Wentz. We don't know that because he's NEVER HEALTHY. We're not even out of September yet and he's already had two injuries and missed time due to his selfish decision to not get vaccinated. Eagles must be laughing their heads off. Sit Wentz and let's see what Eason can do. We need to find out and while at it, get some of our draft capital back.

[HoosierinFL]

I'll try for the less dramatic take on Omaha's 16 points of light.

1. Wentz needs time. He really missed too much time. And suddenly the offensive line sucks and that's not his fault. But he does need to make his reads faster.

2. OK, I can't tone this one down. We need to control the game by running the ball.

3. I think Fisher was a good idea but he might not work. But he also needs time. He literally was not playing football until about 10 days ago.

4. Yea this is weird. Eason was supposed to be the back up and then suddenly when we need a back up, he's not the guy? Then you have to cut him. We could do better with Brissett. What a colossal fuck up.

5. I secretly love Pascal but he can't be any teams #1. He's a great weapon if he's your #3. Again I can't understand why they scratched Strachan?

6. TE's can be more than just guys but why don't we use them?

7. Yea OK its weird.

8. I don't understand letting Autry go. What happened to signing guys who did their jobs?

9. See #11

10. Maybe, but with a healthy DL we've handled Henry before. But this defense has regressed.

11. Leadership. You're right here, we have none. i don't want to start another vax debate, but its a problem that these "leaders" are also the antivaxxers. Leaders start by leading by example. They haven't done that. At least 3 of the team captains (Nelson, Leonard, Wentz) are antivaxxers. On a pro football team its time to leave the politics and nonsense at home and show that you're willing to do what it takes to stay healthy and stay on the field. If half the team can't trust these leaders, then they aren't leading.

12. We can run well, but we don't try.

13. Nope, well, just the running game.

14. See #9.

15. Probably not, because I think he'll be fine. But we need a high round DB or pass rusher.

16. Hard to understand, but this team got worse. I'm wondering about Ballard's choices in who to let walk and who to keep.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

They didn’t play him at all in the preseason and then give him 10 measly carries in a huge division game? And it’s not like he wasn’t producing. 64 yards on 10 carries. 6.4 yards per carry.

Absolute bullshit.

Mike Vrabel should be buying Reich dinner for a gift like that.

Omaha also said Leonard isn’t a leader, so he’s obviously drunk.

ok fine

leonard isn't a good leader

[daedge]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

They didn’t play him at all in the preseason and then give him 10 measly carries in a huge division game? And it’s not like he wasn’t producing. 64 yards on 10 carries. 6.4 yards per carry.

Absolute bullshit.

Mike Vrabel should be buying Reich dinner for a gift like that.

Omaha also said Leonard isn’t a leader, so he’s obviously drunk.

Bang on. This is what pisses me off - coach giving our best offensive threat the ball 10 times. Hell, I don't care if he's averaging 2.4 yards a carry, give him more than 10 carries. The play calling is rotten, pure rotten, and this team is quickly going down the shitter.

To think how much hope there was only a few weeks ago.....oh, how quick it can change.

Given a first round pick is at stake, it was a horrible decision to play a broken Wentz today. Look, don't get me wrong, if he's healthy we have to play him and I want nothing more than to win, but he's 70% and wouldn't have even been able to avoid a retired Brad Scioli in the pocket today. Sit his ass.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Omaha is drunk, and gets emotional when drunk. As for him being smart... well, he likes Keystone Light.

As to your point about Taylor, it has a bunch of people scratching their heads. The dude is one of our three offensive playmakers, but when he does well, we go away from him. I wish Tennessee was that stupid when it comes to Henry.

i like the price of keystone light but haven't drank it in probably 8 years.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Omaha is drunk, and gets emotional when drunk. As for him being smart... well, he likes Keystone Light.

As to your point about Taylor, it has a bunch of people scratching their heads. The dude is one of our three offensive playmakers, but when he does well, we go away from him. I wish Tennessee was that stupid when it comes to Henry.

Pretty sure with the unemployment bonus he can buy Yuengling now, But he may just be using the extra on crack

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I think you’re being a little dramatic.

Wentz has had like 5 practices since JOINING THE DAMN TEAM and was playing hurt on top of that and you’re done with him already? Come on, Omaha. I thought you were smarter than that.

I’m not convinced at all the Wentz is the answer but he’s what we have. And he’s not been that bad, all things considered.

If things don’t get any better, I’m not sure we shouldn’t try and salvage that first round pick AND try and get Wentz healthy, but I’m not at all convinced that we can’t win with him.

The single worst decision made today was Reich giving Taylor 10 freaking carries in a game that was close all the way. That’s inexcusable.

so you argument is that a player that is always hurt, can't be judged because he is hurt?

i don't think wentz is the worst qb out there. just that with all things considered, we invested too much into a guy that isn't the guy this team needs

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

so you argument is that a player that is always hurt, can't be judged because he is hurt?

i don't think wentz is the worst qb out there. just that with all things considered, we invested too much into a guy that isn't the guy this team needs

He’s always going to be injury prone, largely because he’s always going to hold the ball a second to long trying to be the hero. The hope was that Reich would be able to help him with that.

I think it’s too early to make any decisions on that because he just hasn’t had enough time.

We know he can play at an MVP level.

As for doing any better, he was who Reich wanted, so he was always going to be the guy. Plus, they would have had to give up more for Fields, who was the only other realistic option. Well, other than Darnold, who would have made even less sense.

I just think it’s too early to say Wentz hasn’t worked out.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

He’s always going to be injury prone, largely because he’s always going to hold the ball a second to long trying to be the hero. The hope was that Reich would be able to help him with that.

I think it’s too early to make any decisions on that because he just hasn’t had enough time.

We know he can play at an MVP level.

As for doing any better, he was who Reich wanted, so he was always going to be the guy. Plus, they would have had to give up more for Fields, who was the only other realistic option. Well, other than Darnold, who would have made even less sense.

I just think it’s too early to say Wentz hasn’t worked out.

i understand i am pulling the plug early. mainly because i cant imagine him a long term option. to me, the investment was too big that we won't go qb early if one is there.

[Chromeburn]

I’m wondering if Wentz is a slow processor. That’s why he buys time with his legs. So he can open the passing lanes up. I’m not sure he has any pocket awareness. Still would like to see some more. I was kinda thinking by taking away his mobility and forcing him to stay in the pocket was good for him. Force him to get that ball out.

Our linebackers are going to get a finesse label. Okereke, did he sit too long? I’ll give him the season at least. Our passrush still lags. So many draft picks spent on dline, will no one emerge?

We have a strangely built team. I feel like we have some good players but not in the most influential positions. Our purported strengths don’t look like strengths to me. We don’t dominate… ever. I’m mean your strength should have some dominant games every so often. Maybe when healthy? We have Taylor but don’t get him enough carries. Hines should have a minimum amounts of touches in space. Pittman is showing up which is promising.

We are digging a deep hole. I hate to say the season may be done by week three, but man we’re in a hole. Hopefully a win against the Phins will restore some faith. We may have a bad year and what sucks is we will probably lose our first round pick anyway.