Quick thoughts on Jaguars-Colts

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Colt Classic

I usually despise the quick-fix, overpaying for a name solution, but if the team needed a Mack-type to make the defense great, then practically no price would've been too high for him when the money is there for such a splurge. Otherwise, get ready for throwing darts in the draft and/or hoping to find a reasonable facsimile on the cheap in free agency.

Looking at this last draft, it wasn't throwing darts

[JAFF]

Everybody is learning this year. Including the HC. I hope he uses the same critical abiltiy with player as he does with the play calling.

They stepped off the gas. Let Luck be Luck. I can live with that. Don't take the ball out of his hands.

The D needs help. They played hard. The special teams missed on KO and FG. So it's not just one thing.

But............they won. Learing to win is hard. Learning from your own mistakes even harder.

[DrSpaceman]

part of the second half was, again, drops and mistakes.

Two key drops were killers, one for an INT when they are about to score and go up two scores, I believe, and another that just prevented a realistic chance for a first down deep in own territory. ANd they were EASY catches to make.

But yes, offense and play calling I just didn't get. You aren't making a 3rd and one up the middle against this D. Would have been a good spot for a sweep, or play action and roll out luck.

On the other hand, once again, no sacks, very little pressure on Luck.

The bad part was, again, no sacks, very little pressure on Bortles. They did get in there for a couple of key blocked passes and arm grabs on key downs.

really though I think this is the team we all expected at the beginning of the year. Around .500. Good or great offense but bad defense with no pass rush and a bad secondary.

Also.....come on Hooker, you have to make that tackle on Moncrief.

And Walker......you have to make that play on the fake punt.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

And Walker......you have to make that play on the fake punt.

He read the play...he made the play...he just let him get 1 foot to much. It happens. A Pagano coached team is totally unprepared for that play.

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

He read the play...he made the play...he just let him get 1 foot to much. It happens. A Pagano coached team is totally unprepared for that play.

He didn't make the play. He made the first down

He was in position to make the play, but didn't stop it.

Yes we saw Pagano coached teams do much worse, but still, if this team is to make it back to the top of the league and not merely be another good but not great team, those are plays you have to make.

[VeveJones007]

On #6, who was the premier pass rusher on the dominant Lovie Smith Bears defenses pre-Julius Peppers. I’ll hang up and listen for your answer.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

On #6, who was the premier pass rusher on the dominant Lovie Smith Bears defenses pre-Julius Peppers. I’ll hang up and listen for your answer.

Tommie Harris was, for a time, the 3 tech we all constantly dreamed of. They also had hall of fame freak off nature/MLB Brian Urlacher.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Tommie Harris was, for a time, the 3 tech we all constantly dreamed of. They also had hall of fame freak off nature/MLB Brian Urlacher.

Re-read #6. GBB specifically named edge rushers and said the D cannot work without a dominant edge. He’s right about a lot of things, but evidence shows that he overreached on #6.

[Colt Classic]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Re-read #6. GBB specifically named edge rushers and said the D cannot work without a dominant edge. He’s right about a lot of things, but evidence shows that he overreached on #6.

He said rushers but named edge rushers specifically. I can't imagine at this point he'd turn down a rusher that plays anywhere, but thanks for the semantics.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Colt Classic

He said rushers but named edge rushers specifically. I can't imagine at this point he'd turn down a rusher that plays anywhere, but thanks for the semantics.

You can't have debate without semantics. Without semantics, we're all just blabbering into the void...oh, wait, you're right.