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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I think that many of those fans DO realize this, they are just reluctant to admit it because of their own agenda/fandom reasons.


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When Peyton Manning missed the entire 2011 season due to injury, the Colts lost their first 13 games of the season, and went 2-14 overall.

When Tom Brady missed the entire 2008 season, the Patriots went 11-5 with Matt Cassel at quarterback, and only missed the postseason because of a tiebreaker. In fact, they were only the second team ever to go 11-5 and miss the postseason (the 1985 Denver Broncos being the other) since the inaugural 16-game schedule season in 1978.


Terry Bradshaw was a very good quarterback, and he excelled in the postseason (particularly in bad-weather games.) And I believe that he is rightfully a member of the Hall-of-Fame. However, his being 4-0 in the Super Bowl as a starting quarterback (including two Super Bowl MVP awards) does not necessarily mean that he was a better quarterback than was Dan Marino, whose team was blown out by the 49ers by a score of 38-16 in the only Super Bowl that he ever reached.


Yes, Brady has made it to 8 Super Bowls, winning 5 of them. That doesn't necessarily doesn't make him a better quarterback than Peyton Manning, any more than Terry Bradshaw's 2 Super Bowl MVP's and 4 Super Bowl titles necessarily make him a better quarterback than Dan Marino.


Bart Stahr won 5 world championships as a starting quarterback also, but I don't think that that necessarily means that he was a better quarterback than John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, or Roger Staubach all were, either.


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If you use SB wins that is fine. Then Brady is your goat. But I don’t like simplistic measurements like that. I think the pats have made many average QBs look good in that system. Brady is accurate and reads D’s well, but he folds under pressure. Manning is the only QB to win SBs with two different teams. But that is simplistic as well. I do know you put a defense with manning and he will get you SB wins. Would Belicheat and Brady be the same without each other? Anyway, the game was different in the 70’s. I kind of consider Walsh and Montana as the start of the modern era. But even 80’s 90’s football was very different than today. Salary cap, parity, pass offenses and rules, WRs and their gloves with PI rules. It’s so different.

Of that era I would probably go Elway, Montana, Marino. But as a pure passer, hard to go against Marino.