This is unwatchable

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

You have to be a complete moron not to know that a game where people smash into each other repeatedly is unsafe. It didn't matter if they were transparent or not, lawsuits would have been filed, but you can't file lawsuits and then complain about what someone is forced to do as a result of them. Them not telling the players the game wasn't safe is like mcdonald's not telling people that coffee is hot. In either case, it didn't matter that people didn't have common sense, the lawsuits were still filed.

I think the problem is whether the NFL is fully forthcoming or have withheld research they have done. If the players were making fully informed decisions that is one thing, but if they believed that they were not doing any lasting hard and then the NFL withheld information so they would continue to play, that is definitely a violation.

Also that McD's case is thrown around a lot as a common sense case, but when you get into the details McD's actually looks pretty liable.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I think the problem is whether the NFL is fully forthcoming or have withheld research they have done. If the players were making fully informed decisions that is one thing, but if they believed that they were not doing any lasting hard and then the NFL withheld information so they would continue to play, that is definitely a violation.

Also that McD's case is thrown around a lot as a common sense case, but when you get into the details McD's actually looks pretty liable.

I understand that it's an issue that can make it worthy of a lawsuit, but what I'm saying is that you have to be dumb as shit to not know that you're doing short term and long term damage to yourself with constant violent collisions with another human being. So could they sue? Yes, of course, obviously. They had a case, but in reality, you're dumb as hell if you didn't understand that you were doing damage to yourself playing football.

The players decided to go the legal route and once they did, then they have to understand that the NFL now has no choice but to try to make the game "safer" or risk MORE lawsuits. Blame the NFL if you want, but they had no choice once the lawsuits started.

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

I understand that it's an issue that can make it worthy of a lawsuit, but what I'm saying is that you have to be dumb as shit to not know that you're doing short term and long term damage to yourself with constant violent collisions with another human being. So could they sue? Yes, of course, obviously. They had a case, but in reality, you're dumb as hell if you didn't understand that you were doing damage to yourself playing football.

The players decided to go the legal route and once they did, then they have to understand that the NFL now has no choice but to try to make the game "safer" or risk MORE lawsuits. Blame the NFL if you want, but they had no choice once the lawsuits started.

Owners need add a "Play at your own risk" clause, before agreeing to another CBA Agreement. You will make great money but may be injured, or go flip burgers and mow yards. Imagine most would buy right in...

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by smitty46953

Owners need add a "Play at your own risk" clause, before agreeing to another CBA Agreement. You will make great money but may be injured, or go flip burgers and mow yards. Imagine most would buy right in...

They should do a better job of taking care of players health in the long term. And players know what they are doing

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by smitty46953

Owners need add a "Play at your own risk" clause, before agreeing to another CBA Agreement. You will make great money but may be injured, or go flip burgers and mow yards. Imagine most would buy right in...

That would be ideal. The biggest issue with this is the perception issue and media. They were criticized quite a bit for not doing enough for player safety in the media.

Personally I would prefer for them to keep things how they were and have a waiver of liability added like you and others have mentioned. I hate the changes.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

That would be ideal. The biggest issue with this is the perception issue and media. They were criticized quite a bit for not doing enough for player safety in the media.

Personally I would prefer for them to keep things how they were and have a waiver of liability added like you and others have mentioned. I hate the changes.

The chances of the players union agreeing to this are about the same as the chances of driving your car to the moon. It's just not going to happen.

[GoBigBlue88]

"This is unwatchable" - thousands of guys who continue to watch the NFL

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88

"This is unwatchable" - thousands of guys who continue to watch the NFL

exactly

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88

"This is unwatchable" - thousands of guys who continue to watch the NFL

I will watch till the name changes to the NFFL … (National Flag Football League) but will retain my right to bitch about the product …

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88

"This is unwatchable" - thousands of guys who continue to watch the NFL

Still not as bad as "I refuse a portion of my profits for no valid reason." - Business owners who used to show NFL games and now refuse to due to anthem protests.