Free Agents Discussion

[sherck]

Originally Posted by ukcolt

Do we know what our current cap situation is now?
We have signed:-

C Brian Schwenke
DE Margus Hunt
DT Al Woods
OLB Jabaal Sheard
OLB John Simon
OLB Barkevious Mingo
and P Jeff Locke

I did an update this morning in the "cap update" thread.

Roughly, we have $19m to spend on free agents left.

Cheers,

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[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by sherck

Oh heck yes!

Sherman is a man-to-man stud who is not afraid to line up across from anyone and stay with them until the play is done.

Played in every game over his entire 6 season career and has started all of them since game 7 of his rookie year.

97 Passes Defended in 6 years. Average of 5 INTs per year and a really good run support tackler.

He is Vontae Davis....only 1 year younger. Would it not be great to have two of them?

A really nice page isolating him on some of his better plays from 2013 (located here).

Another one from 2014 that is more fact and data driven (located here).

Now, contracts.

Vontae is only signed through 2017 and is a free agent at the end of the season. He is our CB1 and would probably expect a top dollar offer from Ballard to remain here.

Sherman would cost the Colts $11.431m of cap space in 2017 and $11.000m in 2018. He would be great insurance against "needing" to overpay Vontae to stay. Those cap hits are not terrible when compared to what other top CBs are getting.

The rub comes down to what the Seahawks would want in return. I would pay a 3rd round pick in a heartbeat for him. I would think hard about paying our 2nd round pick since there was a solid chance we were going to use one of our 1st or 2nd round picks on CB anyway.

I would not trade our 1st round pick for him nor would I send multiple picks unless it was our 3rd round and one of our bottom 4th round picks.

Sherman would make our entire defense better. Add a OLB[RUSH] and ILB in the top rounds of the draft and our defensive makeover would be well underway.

Cheers,

I don't understand why you are willing to pay 11M for a 28 yr old corner, but not 10M for a 24yr old NT that would instantly make the front 7 a team strength.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

I don't understand why you are willing to pay 11M for a 28 yr old corner, but not 10M for a 24yr old NT that would instantly make the front 7 a team strength.

Because I am not as convinced as everyone else that Poe is still the difference maker he was 3 years ago.

I am convinced that Sherman is as good now as he has ever been.

You pay for uptrending or level excellence and not for declining performance.

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[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by sherck

Because I am not as convinced as everyone else that Poe is still the difference maker he was 3 years ago.

I am convinced that Sherman is as good now as he has ever been.

You pay for uptrending or level excellence and not for declining performance.

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I wasn't talking about Poe he's signed, I was talking about Hankins. I would never sign Sherman, to me he's all about Richard Sherman, and not the team, and I absolutely would not give up any draft picks to acquire him, never.

[Coltsalr]

I would be beyond thrilled if we signed both Hankins and Zach Brown.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

I wasn't talking about Poe he's signed, I was talking about Hankins. I would never sign Sherman, to me he's all about Richard Sherman, and not the team, and I absolutely would not give up any draft picks to acquire him, never.

Hankins might be worth a ton as a pass rushing 4-3 NT.

I am not positive why folks want to pay him a ton as a 3-4 NT. He is not that.

He might grow into the role, but paying $8m + a year to find out would be foolish.

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[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by sherck

Hankins might be worth a ton as a pass rushing 4-3 NT.

I am not positive why folks want to pay him a ton as a 3-4 NT. He is not that.

He might grow into the role, but paying $8m + a year to find out would be foolish.

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Ok, I can respect that point of view, but I still wouldn't give Sherman over 11m, and give up a high draft pick to get him, especially since the Colts can't pressure the QB.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by sherck

Hankins might be worth a ton as a pass rushing 4-3 NT.

I am not positive why folks want to pay him a ton as a 3-4 NT. He is not that.

He might grow into the role, but paying $8m + a year to find out would be foolish.

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Yeah, that's too much for Hankins.

[natagu23]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Yeah, that's too much for Hankins.

Not really but what do i know.

[Dam8610]

Any news on Zach Brown? A bunch of articles from March 15 said the Colts were in contact with him, and that he left Oakland without signing, but not much beyond that. Hopefully the Colts are pursuing. Speed at the ILB position would be such a refreshing change.