Official 2018 NFL Draft Discussion Thread

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by ZiaColt

that tells us Ballard's side of it, but not Beane's.

I respect McShay's evaluation of QBs (especially since he was a starting QB in college) and he feels only 2 of the "4 QB's" everyone mentions are deserving of being drafted in the top 10 of this draft. That's not to say they won't be drafted in the top 10, they likely will. And Jackson later in Round One, and Rudolph may even move up into Round One, near the end. IMO the current NFL rules cause teams to over-value QBs in general.

But speaking personally, if I'm Buffalo's GM, I'm not valuing #6 in this draft enough to give up #12 and #22 for it, especially if there's any shot at #4 or #2.

Agreed here. I think Buffalo and Cleveland work out a deal for #4.

[VeveJones007]

Tony Pauline has a source saying the 49ers like Edmunds.

In that recent mock, I have the San Francisco 49ers trading down with the Buffalo Bills and selecting Leighton Vander Esch. This won’t be the case if Tremaine Edmunds is available when the Niners are called to the clock, as he is the player the team covets.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Tony Pauline has a source saying the 49ers like Edmunds.

I doubt we get either Edmunds or Smith at 12. I’m guessing McIchy or Davenport at 12.

[ZiaColt]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I doubt we get either Edmunds or Smith at 12. I’m guessing McIchy or Davenport at 12.

I think if Ballard trades down for #12, it would be with the expectation that Smith and Edmunds will both be gone, and he'll be looking at someone like Ward, Fitzpatrick or James.

And, hopefully, additional 2nd-round picks (unless he can somehow talk Beane into #22 as well as #12).

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by ZiaColt

I think if Ballard trades down for #12, it would be with the expectation that Smith and Edmunds will both be gone, and he'll be looking at someone like Ward, Fitzpatrick or James.

And, hopefully, additional 2nd-round picks (unless he can somehow talk Beane into #22 as well as #12).

If it's 12 and 22, I'd expect Fitzpatrick and LVE.

[ZiaColt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If it's 12 and 22, I'd expect Fitzpatrick and LVE.

some scouts apparently feel that, although Fitzpatrick had a better overall college career, James will be a better pro, FWIW. And if Ward truly is the best cover corner in the draft, I'd be mildly surprised to see him still there at #12, but I guess it could happen.

supposedly the Cowboys like LVE at #19, but they'll also be under pressure from their fan base to "replace Dez" in the first round and might pick Ridley if he's there at #19.

if Malik Jefferson slides all the way to #49, I might be tempted to take him too.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by ZiaColt

some scouts apparently feel that, although Fitzpatrick had a better overall college career, James will be a better pro, FWIW. And if Ward truly is the best cover corner in the draft, I'd be mildly surprised to see him still there at #12, but I guess it could happen.

supposedly the Cowboys like LVE at #19, but they'll also be under pressure from their fan base to "replace Dez" in the first round and might pick Ridley if he's there at #19.

if Malik Jefferson slides all the way to #49, I might be tempted to take him too.

I like Jefferson a lot as a Rd2 target, especially if they don’t go LB in Rd1.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by ZiaColt

I think if Ballard trades down for #12, it would be with the expectation that Smith and Edmunds will both be gone, and he'll be looking at someone like Ward, Fitzpatrick or James.

And, hopefully, additional 2nd-round picks (unless he can somehow talk Beane into #22 as well as #12).

I would be pretty disappointed if they come out of Rd1 with a secondary player. The LBs are better prospects, IMO.

Another reason why I think Ballard stays at 6.

[VeveJones007]

Per Matt Miller:

Derwin James top 10. Frank Ragnow Round 1. Maurice Hurst day 3. That's all the latest buzz from the draft world.

Maurice Hurst falling would be interesting. Could be a good fit in the 4-3.

If Ragnow and Price go Rd1, maybe Daniels or Hernandez makes it to them in Rd2.

[ZiaColt]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

I like Jefferson a lot as a Rd2 target, especially if they don’t go LB in Rd1.

I'm a bit perplexed as to why Jefferson appears to be sliding so much. I can understand it happening with some other potentially problematic guys like Jefferson's teammate Hill, or Key (LSU), but not so much with Jefferson.