Quick thoughts - Texans

[GoBigBlue88]

Originally Posted by Spike

He didn't have time to breath, let alone just swallow that ball. Like I said, he has made mistakes, that fumble was not one of them. We will just have to agree to disagree.

He definitely had time to make a much better decisions than he did. And he needed to see the pressure to begin with.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88

He definitely had time to make a much better decisions than he did. And he needed to see the pressure to begin with.

No he didn't. I rewatched that play numerous times and he had no chance, not in 2 fucking seconds.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Spike

No he didn't. I rewatched that play numerous times and he had no chance, not in 2 fucking seconds.

No, he sure didn't. I don't even fault anyone on that play- good D call against the right set- they disguised it well and he was a sitting duck there.

Pre-snap adjustment---- MAYBE (do we even have those or are we so good we take the approach that we dictate terms...). But as far as when the play was snapped- no chance to do shit besides hold onto the ball- and he was crushed!

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Spike

He didn't have time to breath, let alone just swallow that ball. Like I said, he has made mistakes, that fumble was not one of them. We will just have to agree to disagree.

Yes well will, because he was way in the backfield and even as the rusher came quickly, he certainly saw the rusher coming before he tried to throw it. He was looking right at him

I have seen Brady, Manning, Rodgrs, brees, any good QB in the same situation many, many times in rushes just as quick, or faster. They drop to the ground and take the sack.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Yes well will, because he was way in the backfield and even as the rusher came quickly, he certainly saw the rusher coming before he tried to throw it. He was looking right at him

I have seen Brady, Manning, Rodgrs, brees, any good QB in the same situation many, many times in rushes just as quick, or faster. They drop to the ground and take the sack.

You are comparing a 2nd year player, 1st year starter with 4 HOF bound QBs whom all have more than a decade of playing experience under their belts?

You are, perhaps, asking just a bit much of a 2nd year player?

Walk Worthy,

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by sherck

You are comparing a 2nd year player, 1st year starter with 4 HOF bound QBs whom all have more than a decade of playing experience under their belts?

You are, perhaps, asking just a bit much of a 2nd year player?

Walk Worthy,

Asking a player not to get sacked and cause a fumble, then have it returned for an easy TD, which completely changed the momentum of the game and kept Houston in the game in the second half, by protecting the ball in the last minute of the half when the team is driving for a FG is asking a bit much?

I don't think that is a bit much for any QB. I am not asking him to be a HOF QB, I am asking him to not make a stupid decision.

And I have criticized Luck for the same in the past when he has made similar bad decisions in his career.

[OneVoice]

Originally Posted by FatDT

Matt Hasslebeck and Josh Freeman are the two best QB2s in recent Colts history. Until Brisket anyway.

Totally forgot about Hass. Man, how soon I forget.

Josh Freeman was better than most.

I guess my real qualm is with the development of QB2s: Sorgi and Painter ...Pats groomed Matt Cassell, Garappolo, Brisset. What's the trick?

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by OneVoice

Totally forgot about Hass. Man, how soon I forget.

Josh Freeman was better than most.

I guess my real qualm is with the development of QB2s: Sorgi and Painter ...Pats groomed Matt Cassell, Garappolo, Brisset. What's the trick?

In their case the trick is putting a system in place where any average QB can step in and win if the starter goes down.

What did Matt Cassell do after he left the Pats?

He has had like 2 good to average seasons in KC and otherwise has been a back up

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...C/CassMa00.htm

Hell I didn't even know he was still in the league this season in the same division

If I had to bet right now I would say Garappolo with suffer the same fate.

Brissett has been oK with the Colts, I don't blame him for the team problems, bad situation to be in overall despite my criticisms elsewhere of him.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

No, he sure didn't. I don't even fault anyone on that play- good D call against the right set- they disguised it well and he was a sitting duck there.

Pre-snap adjustment---- MAYBE (do we even have those or are we so good we take the approach that we dictate terms...). But as far as when the play was snapped- no chance to do shit besides hold onto the ball- and he was crushed!

Exactly, eat the fucking ball!

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Exactly, eat the fucking ball!

Yeah he definitely should have put that shit under his arm and just taken the loss and fought another day. He's gotta learn that taking 6 yard losses is better than giving up 6 points.