Kenny Moore to be traded

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I like the fact that you are apparently highly skilled at deductive thinking, and the process of elimination. )

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Maybe you guys should get a room?

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Maybe you guys should get a room ??? )

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I'm in the closet, and I'm not coming out.

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[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Maybe you guys should get a room?

Not interested. This forum is good enough.

[apballin]

Send him to the Cowboys and be done with it

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

We have no quality depth. That usually comes from developing draft choices but we have missed on all of our defensive backs since Ballard got here for one reason or another. If Walley is actually above average it will be the first cornerback we have drafted in years that is. Ward is one concussion away from retiring according to him. Pretty good chance he does.Our back ups are all castoffs or people only die hard Colt fans have even heard of. Lets hope we don't get any major injuries.

That's just not true. The only DBs Ballard has drafted that would rightly be called a "miss" are Quincy Wilson, Rock Ya-Sin, and Julius Brents, Ballard clearly shouldn't draft CBs in Round 2. He's had some home runs at DB, too, such as Isaiah Rodgers (who he shouldn't have cut), Jaylon Jones, and Rodney Thomas II (2 seasons of decent starting safety play out of a 7th round pick is far more than you could ever expect). There's also a lot of quality starters, mostly at S. Malik Hooker, Julian Blackmon, Khari Willis, and Nick Cross. What the team needs to do better at DB, shockingly, is retain their own quality players. I'm sure everyone would feel a lot better about the DB depth of the team if Isaiah Rodgers and Nick Cross were still on it.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

That's just not true. The only DBs Ballard has drafted that would rightly be called a "miss" are Quincy Wilson, Rock Ya-Sin, and Julius Brents, Ballard clearly shouldn't draft CBs in Round 2. He's had some home runs at DB, too, such as Isaiah Rodgers (who he shouldn't have cut), Jaylon Jones, and Rodney Thomas II (2 seasons of decent starting safety play out of a 7th round pick is far more than you could ever expect). There's also a lot of quality starters, mostly at S. Malik Hooker, Julian Blackmon, Khari Willis, and Nick Cross. What the team needs to do better at DB, shockingly, is retain their own quality players. I'm sure everyone would feel a lot better about the DB depth of the team if Isaiah Rodgers and Nick Cross were still on it.

Depends on your perspective I guess. Willis has been out of football since 2022, Hooker was a huge miss at 15 (he is a starting safety however) Blackmon starts and Cross wasn't good enough for us to resign (we have the money). 'Hitting' on 7th rounders means you have a dude who makes the team, not someone that is foundational on your team. They may have had Jones/Thomas start but from how they continue to try to replace them it doesn't appear they start because they are really good, they are all we have. The proof that we draft DBs like shit is that 3 of our 4 starters were not drafted by us. We are not filling out the defensive backfield with free agents, they are the only way we seem to get DBs we hold onto (that and giving up multiple first round picks). Not sure who you blame for an atmosphere that allows Rogers to do what he did, but it is a blight on the team that we had a dude betting on games. For a man who preaches building through the draft I just do not see it in this defensive backfield. Maybe it would have been more accurate to say Ballard hasn't drafted one difference maker in the defensive backfield since he got here.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Depends on your perspective I guess. Willis has been out of football since 2022, Hooker was a huge miss at 15 (he is a starting safety however) Blackmon starts and Cross wasn't good enough for us to resign (we have the money). 'Hitting' on 7th rounders means you have a dude who makes the team, not someone that is foundational on your team. They may have had Jones/Thomas start but from how they continue to try to replace them it doesn't appear they start because they are really good, they are all we have. The proof that we draft DBs like shit is that 3 of our 4 starters were not drafted by us. We are not filling out the defensive backfield with free agents, they are the only way we seem to get DBs we hold onto (that and giving up multiple first round picks). Not sure who you blame for an atmosphere that allows Rogers to do what he did, but it is a blight on the team that we had a dude betting on games. For a man who preaches building through the draft I just do not see it in this defensive backfield. Maybe it would have been more accurate to say Ballard hasn't drafted one difference maker in the defensive backfield since he got here.

I would consider this assessment closer to reality than what dammy is suggesting.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Depends on your perspective I guess. Willis has been out of football since 2022, Hooker was a huge miss at 15 (he is a starting safety however) Blackmon starts and Cross wasn't good enough for us to resign (we have the money). 'Hitting' on 7th rounders means you have a dude who makes the team, not someone that is foundational on your team. They may have had Jones/Thomas start but from how they continue to try to replace them it doesn't appear they start because they are really good, they are all we have. The proof that we draft DBs like shit is that 3 of our 4 starters were not drafted by us. We are not filling out the defensive backfield with free agents, they are the only way we seem to get DBs we hold onto (that and giving up multiple first round picks). Not sure who you blame for an atmosphere that allows Rogers to do what he did, but it is a blight on the team that we had a dude betting on games. For a man who preaches building through the draft I just do not see it in this defensive backfield. Maybe it would have been more accurate to say Ballard hasn't drafted one difference maker in the defensive backfield since he got here.

Replacing a decent starter with an All-Pro is something I would do 10 times out of 10, especially if all it costs is money like Ward. The Sauce trade was likely a bit of an overpay, but the player is elite. Sitting behind Sauce and Ward as a boundary CB isn't an indictment of Jaylon Jones's abilities, it's evidence of the team investing heavily in the position.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Replacing a decent starter with an All-Pro is something I would do 10 times out of 10, especially if all it costs is money like Ward. The Sauce trade was likely a bit of an overpay, but the player is elite. Sitting behind Sauce and Ward as a boundary CB isn't an indictment of Jaylon Jones's abilities, it's evidence of the team investing heavily in the position.

My point was we lack depth because we have drafted poorly. Period. Not sure how this relates to that except that this is obviously a reaction to poor drafting.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Depends on your perspective I guess. Willis has been out of football since 2022, Hooker was a huge miss at 15 (he is a starting safety however) Blackmon starts and Cross wasn't good enough for us to resign (we have the money). 'Hitting' on 7th rounders means you have a dude who makes the team, not someone that is foundational on your team. They may have had Jones/Thomas start but from how they continue to try to replace them it doesn't appear they start because they are really good, they are all we have. The proof that we draft DBs like shit is that 3 of our 4 starters were not drafted by us. We are not filling out the defensive backfield with free agents, they are the only way we seem to get DBs we hold onto (that and giving up multiple first round picks). Not sure who you blame for an atmosphere that allows Rogers to do what he did, but it is a blight on the team that we had a dude betting on games. For a man who preaches building through the draft I just do not see it in this defensive backfield. Maybe it would have been more accurate to say Ballard hasn't drafted one difference maker in the defensive backfield since he got here.

Pretty sure a lot of this has to do with Lou wanting vets at certain positions