Colts draft QB Riley Leonard - Round 6, Pick 189

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

It is definitely "must see" TV.

I hope it stays 'must see' for more than a quarter of football

[Colts And Orioles]

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I was wrong when I thought that Anthony Richardson should have been our starter this season over Daniel Jones.

I hope that I'm wrong about believing that Philip Rivers being our best option heading into the final 3 games of this tumultuous 2025 season ...... I liked what I saw out of Riley Leonard in the game against the Jaguars last week, and I hope that that was just the beginning of a very successful tenure with the Colts for him, whether it be as the team's 1st-string quarterback or the 2nd-string quarterback behind Daniel Jones next year.


Best-case-scenario would be that Leonard plays well next week, and if he does get hurt at any time during the last 3 games of the season, at least we have Philip Rivers waiting in the wings ...... Rivers got his feet wet for the first time in 5 years today, and settled in nicely over the final 3 quarters, all things considered.

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[Oldcolt]

Not sure how you can be so sure AR wasn't the right man to lead us. DJ was good for a while but was reverting back to who the NY fans said he was before he once again got injured. The dude is just as injury prone as AR (finished all of one season without time our for injury). We are also going to end the season in almost exactly the same spot we were in when we started the season with AR as our QB. If you see improvement this year you have better rose colored glasses than I do. We are even using the same excuses or what ifs. It is almost like doing the same old thing over and over and over again yields the same results.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Not sure how you can be so sure AR wasn't the right man to lead us. DJ was good for a while but was reverting back to who the NY fans said he was before he once again got injured. The dude is just as injury prone as AR (finished all of one season without time our for injury). We are also going to end the season in almost exactly the same spot we were in when we started the season with AR as our QB. If you see improvement this year you have better rose colored glasses than I do. We are even using the same excuses or what ifs. It is almost like doing the same old thing over and over and over again yields the same results.

This is depressing, but true.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Not sure how you can be so sure AR wasn't the right man to lead us. DJ was good for a while but was reverting back to who the NY fans said he was before he once again got injured.

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This is not even close to being debatable.

Before he got injured in the Chiefs game, Jones had a QB rating of 101.6. Even after that, right up until his disastrous final quarter of the Jaguars game he had a QB rating of 100.2 for the season. Jones' completion percentage for the season (including after he broke his left fibula) was 68%. He had 19 TD's and 8 INT's for the season.

Anthony Richardson's QB rating for the 17 games that he played for the Colts in his first 2 seasons was 67.8, and his completion percentage was 50.6. Overall, he had 11 TD's and 13 INT's.

Statistics can be deceiving, but the discrepancy between Daniel Jones in 2025 and Anthonny Richardson in his 17 games that he played for the Colts in 2023 and 21024 is overwhelming.


And if you're saying this this 2025 Colts team is the same old, tired, mediocre team that we've had in the recent past, then that would rule out the argument that Jones was the beneficiary of playing behind a much better team than Anthony Richardson played on (I don't believe this. I believe that this 2025 Colts team is better than the last 4 teams that we've had since the first retirement of Philip Rivers, and I believe that it is MUCH BETTER than almost all of the Giants teams that Jones played for in his first 6 years in the league. Prior to Jones breaking his left fibula, the Colts were stomping bad teams, something that we haven't seen on a consistent basis since Peyton's Manning was here, and they thoroughly outplayed and beat the Chargers on their homefield in Los Angeles. Even yesterday, when they were down to a broken-down, 44 year-old Philip Rivers on offense and their defense had 3 significant players out with injury they barely lost to what may be the best team in the NFL on their homefield in Seattle.)


I've already explained about quarterbacks whose playing careers were like night and day once they were traded from bad teams to good teams (Jim Plunkett, Rich Gannon, Steve Young, etc.), and quite frankly, I'm tired of making this obvious point. Daniel Jones performance this season was a glaring example of a QB who was much better once a good team (in particular, a good offensive line) was put around him.

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[Oldcolt]

You can site stats all you want. If that is what you care about then you are absolutely correct. All I care about is winning. We have the same record year after year and you make the same argument as to how great and close we are (I know because until recently I was right there with you). At some point the fact that we end up with the same record, no improvement, year after year and just take a slightly different route to get there adds up. We disagree on DJ. I think he had a career year and was average. If everyone around him is perfect he is ok. If he is required to do anything but ordinary we are in trouble. If Ballard/Steichen stay so will DJ most likely and we will get to see if he can actually lead this team anywhere. He won't but you will have a ton of excuses why. Every losing team always does. And fuck you for calling me a troll you piece of shit. I have an opinion that differs from you, oh my god.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

You can site stats all you want. If that is what you care about then you are absolutely correct. All I care about is winning. We have the same record year after year and you make the same argument as to how great and close we are (I know because until recently I was right there with you). At some point the fact that we end up with the same record, no improvement, year after year and just take a slightly different route to get there adds up. We disagree on DJ. I think he had a career year and was average. If everyone around him is perfect he is ok. If he is required to do anything but ordinary we are in trouble. If Ballard/Steichen stay so will DJ most likely and we will get to see if he can actually lead this team anywhere. He won't but you will have a ton of excuses why. Every losing team always does. And fuck you for calling me a troll you piece of shit. I have an opinion that differs from you, oh my god.

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I apologize for saying that you were trolling. That was uncalled for.

You are an excellent poster, and you are also a more objective poster than I am.


Please forgive me for saying what I said. I'm going to delete that very inappropriate portion of my post.

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[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I apologize for saying that you were trolling. That was uncalled for.

You are an excellent poster, and you are also a more objective poster than I am.


Please forgive me for saying what I said. I'm going to delete that very inappropriate portion of my post.

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I also apologize. I'm in a really foul mood today about going from 7-1 to this shit. I imagine your mood isn't much better. I appreciate this site as it allows me to vent like the little bitch I am.. Honestly I really don't believe in DJ (I also know and hope I am wrong-like I was the first 8 games) but think with who we have coming back there is a definite chance we can be a defensive powerhouse. I am also not calling for firing anyone as I don't have an answer. All of what folks have written about why we suck is true, I get that. It just keep happening and pisses me off no end.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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(vs. JAGUARS, 12/07)


I thought that Leonard played better than his stats showed ...... I thought that he was robbed of a TD by the refs, and I also think that the refs robbed him by charging him with an INT instead of a completed pass on a simultaneous reception by the receiver and the defender.

Taking into consideration everything that happened prior to him entering the game, I thought that Leonard actually played well for a rookie QB with no experience coming into a pressure-packed game on the road in which the team was already significantly behind on the scoreboard ...... plus, as I previously stated, I thought that the referees did him no favors.

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(vs. TEXANS, 1/04)


I thought that the kid looked good again.

Today he was 21-for-34 for 270 Yds, 2 TD's, 1 INT, and a 94.0 Passer Rating.

Even though he fumbled the ball early in the game and then had an excellent pass dropped right in Michael Pittman's hands on a critical 3rd down on the Colts' very next possession, he didn't seem frazzled at all by the failures (his own failures, or the failures of his teammates.)

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[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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(vs. TEXANS, 1/04)


I thought that the kid looked good again.

Today he was 21-for-34 for 270 Yds, 2 TD's, 1 INT, and a 94.0 Passer Rating.

Even though he fumbled the ball early in the game and then had an excellent pass dropped right in Michael Pittman's hands on a critical 3rd down on the Colts' very next possession, he didn't seem frazzled at all by the failures (his own failures, or the failures of his teammates.)

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Take that drop and a couple throw aways off the stat and the kid had himself a good day. Throw aways are part of the game for a smart QB, and he seems to be that, even with a small sample size. His ceiling is very good. Its a shame its the last game I wanted to see more.