A few thoughts on this game

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Kray007

At the end of the game, they were forced to keep pushing for a TD rather than simply running the ball behind Taylor, bleeding the clock, and setting up a FG attempt.

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Yes, but we don't know if things would have played out that way had he made the extra point in the first quarter., That final drive by the Colts did not occur in a vacuum. The extra point miss was in the 1st quarter, and there was more than half of the game that was played after that prior to that final drive. The Texans would not necessarily have made all of the same play calls had they been up only by 6 instead of 7, and the same is true with the Colts.

It's like pointing to an egregiously bad call by the referees in the first quarter of a game, and then presuming that everything would have necessarily played out precisely the way that it did for the next 3 quarters had that bad call not been made.


If you want to believe that a missed extra point in the 1st quarter had a significant effect on the game, you can. I choose to accept the reality that the Colts were outplayed when it mattered.

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[Kray007]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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Yes, but we don't know if things would have played out that way had he made the extra point in the first quarter., That final drive by the Colts did not occur in a vacuum. The extra point miss was in the 1st quarter, and there was more than half of the game that was played after that prior to that final drive. The Texans would not necessarily have made all of the same play calls had they been up only by 6 instead of 7, and the same is true with the Colts.

It's like pointing to an egregiously bad call by the referees in the first quarter of a game, and then presuming that everything would have necessarily played out precisely the way that it did for the next 3 quarters had that bad call not been made.


If you want to believe that a missed extra point in the 1st quarter had a significant effect on the game, you can. I choose to accept the reality that the Colts were outplayed when it mattered.

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The reason they were outplayed is that Daniel Jones was playing on one leg, DeForest Bucket was nursing a neck injury, and one of the best Corners in the league was pacing the sidelines, his leg in a brace.

With all that going on, with Referees who looked like they had decided to join the Texan’s 12th man club, the game was a one score affair that might have gone to overtime had Badgely not muffed a PAT.

With two minutes left, the Colts had the ball on Houston’s 31. Had they been trailing by only 3, we would have seen a couple of runs by Taylor and the Colts would have lined up for what should be an easy FG.

Could Indy have won in OT? Who knows.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Kray007

With two minutes left, the Colts had the ball on Houston’s 31. Had they been trailing by only 3, we would have seen a couple of runs by Taylor and the Colts would have lined up for what should be an easy FG.

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I already addressed that in my previous post.

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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We don't know if things would have played out that way had he made the extra point in the first quarter., That final drive by the Colts did not occur in a vacuum. The extra point miss was in the 1st quarter, and there was more than half of the game that was played after that prior to that final drive. The Texans would not necessarily have made all of the same play calls had they been up only by 6 instead of 7, and the same is true with the Colts.

It's like pointing to an egregiously bad call by the referees in the first quarter of a game, and then presuming that everything would have necessarily played out precisely the way that it did for the next 3 quarters had that bad call not been made.


If you want to believe that a missed extra point in the 1st quarter had a significant effect on the game, you can. I choose to accept the reality that the Colts were outplayed when it mattered.

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[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I already addressed that in my previous post.

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Yes you did, But cannot two things be true at the same time?

[HoosierinFL]

Stop with the copium, looking for silver linings and hope.

This team has shit the bed and lost every bit of offensive spark they had early in the season. They can't handle the blitz since the Pittsburgh game, and if Atlanta had a more effective defensive rush we would have lost that game too. Every team we face from here on except the 49ers has a top defense in one way or another.
Jags has #1 run defense and will sell out to stop it, and force us to beat them with the pass. Seahawks have #2 run defense and will do the exact same thing. And Steichen will give in to that and abandon the run entirely in the 2nd half in all 3 of those games. All 3 will be losses. (and that's not to mention Jags and hawks are tied for 2nd in interceptions, and hawks ranked 4 in sacks.)
We play Houston's #1 total defense again, which we will lose.
Only the 49ers game is winnable from that perspective, but then, the 49ers have the 4th best passing offense vs the Colts 27th ranked (and sinking) pass defense.

8 wins is where it stops. Colts lose out and miss the playoffs.

[Indystu2]

Once again, I question the play calling. I get DJ is playing through a broken leg (don't even know how) and mobility is an issue. So, where are the quick hitter play calls to compensate? Did we try quick slants? We got JT outside for a huge play, once. Bubble screens? Get out guys in space to make plays. We have great downfield blockers.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Indystu2

Once again, I question the play calling. I get DJ is playing through a broken leg (don't even know how) and mobility is an issue. So, where are the quick hitter play calls to compensate? Did we try quick slants? We got JT outside for a huge play, once. Bubble screens? Get out guys in space to make plays. We have great downfield blockers.

Please stop. Steichen had a game plan damnit, and game plan he did. Wins, wins are for losers, game plans are what matters!

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Yes you did, but cannot two things be true at the same time ???

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Sure, 2 things can both be true. In this case, I don't think that they are. If the missed extra point had occurred midway through the 4th quarter, then I would agree that it probably had cost the Colts a chance of sending the game into OT because of the way that the Colts' final drive played out. It didn't. It occurred in the 1st quarter, and therefore had very little to do with the ultimate outcome of this game. The OP suggested that ...... "Badgley’s missed kick hung over the game like a spectre that came back to haunt us in the end, like Marley‘s ghost in a Dickens’s tale. On the final series, if Houston’s lead had been three instead of four, they could have run Taylor up the gut on the final two plays, run out the clock, and sent Badgley out to send the game into overtime." ...... to say that that insinuation/inference is an exaggeration of the importance of the missed extra point in the 1st quarter would be putting it mildly. I doubt that any of the Colts players or coaches were thinking about it more than 5 minutes after it happened. And after the Colts failed to convert on 4th down on their final drive of the 4th quarter, I don't think that anyone on the Colts' team or the Colts' sideline was thinking that the only reason why they went for it on 4th down was because of the missed extra point which occurred more than 3 quarters earlier.

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[Indystu2]

This just in....per Colts on X

K Bagley waived

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Indystu2

This just in ...... per Colts on X

K Bagley waived.

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Good call on the Colts' part.

I liked Badgely a lot at first, when he made 14 out of 15 FG attempts in his first 4 games with the Colts. But his missing 3 extra points in 21 tries overall is one too many......for what is essentially a 32-yard FG attempt, a kicker needs to make at least 19 (preferably 20) out of 21.

Badgley's miss in the 1st quarter wasn't the cause of the team's loss to the Texans, but his overall body of work of frequently missing extra points was not sufficient.

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