Colts name Daniel Jones the QB1

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Geno is in Oakland.

Ah. I haven't been paying much attention recently.

[apballin]

I don’t get all the hate on Jones, just like I’m baffled by Colts fans love affair with AR. Jones gives the team the best chance to win now. AR can’t even protect himself out there.

I’m excited about this season, in my opinion this decision took balls of steel from Steichen, he knows who the fans wanted in there yet he walked in there and said Jones is the starter for the season. He’s confident in Jones and if this team comes out winning fans will jump back on the bandwagon real quick

[ChoppedWood]

Exactly as I predicted. Steichen is a coward, second only behind the cowardice that is Chris BullShit Ballard.

Think through this, it is INSANE to bench AR and retain Chris Ballard, insane. This is a reflection of just how fucking inept at this shit that fucking tool is.

14th QB of his tenure, 14th FUCKING QB!

Do I think AR is the messiah, no, do I think he would play the whole season, nope. Do I think he can get us to the playoffs---- ahhhh maybe? Not even pissed that it is Jones over AR, pissed that we are going to start the season with a QB who had a 47.5 QB rating last year with a guy that is only going into his 3rd year as the 4th pick riding the pine because he can't play the damn game of football well- and the fucking shit sucking loser ass GM that chose him, is still in command.

FUCK CHRIS BALLARD!

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

I don’t get all the hate on Jones, just like I’m baffled by Colts fans love affair with AR. Jones gives the team the best chance to win now. AR can’t even protect himself out there.

I’m excited about this season, in my opinion this decision took balls of steel from Steichen, he knows who the fans wanted in there yet he walked in there and said Jones is the starter for the season. He’s confident inJones and if this team comes out winning fans will jump back on the bandwagon real quick

DJ has proven over 6 years that he is a bad QB. Does he give them a chance at more wins? Maybe? A great year from DJ leads this team to a max 9 wins and maybe a first round playoff exit. That’s peak. Great. And you are back in no man’s land next year. I sure as fuck hope they aren’t stupid enough to give DJ a long term contract. That’s the issue with him - no one believes he’s the long term answer at QB and even in one season his max is first round exit. The reality is he probably gets 6-8 wins. So it’s a continuation of the stupid Ballard shit that has driven this team into a decades long mediocrity.

I have no idea why you believe Steichen has balls and is confident in Jones. What is it about Jones that makes him so confident? His sterling record as a starter? I see a fucking weasel who is anything but confident in what he’s doing. He had fucking confidence in Flacco last year too. How’d that work out? The same way Jones is likely to work out.

I have no idea if AR will amount to anything. He’s most likely a shit QB. But he offers excitement and, most importantly, the path off the carousel of mediocrity Ballard loves. By your admission his bad is worse than DJ, so better pick and possibly a chance at a QB. Instead we want an extra 2-3 wins from DJ and a continuation of the carousel.

DJ is a lose / lose proposition. AR is a win / win proposition. That’s why this is a stupid fucking decision and everyone is pissed. I can’t wait until “big dick Ballard” and “balls of steel Steichen” are fucking a different fan base.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by rm1369

DJ has proven over 6 years that he is a bad QB. Does he give them a chance at more wins? Maybe? A great year from DJ leads this team to a max 9 wins and maybe a first round playoff exit. That’s peak. Great. And you are back in no man’s land next year. I sure as fuck hope they aren’t stupid enough to give DJ a long term contract. That’s the issue with him - no one believes he’s the long term answer at QB and even in one season his max is first round exit. The reality is he probably gets 6-8 wins. So it’s a continuation of the stupid Ballard shit that has driven this team into a decades long mediocrity.

I have no idea why you believe Steichen has balls and is confident in Jones. What is it about Jones that makes him so confident? His sterling record as a starter? I see a fucking weasel who is anything but confident in what he’s doing. He had fucking confidence in Flacco last year too. How’d that work out? The same way Jones is likely to work out.

I have no idea if AR will amount to anything. He’s most likely a shit QB. But he offers excitement and, most importantly, the path off the carousel of mediocrity Ballard loves. By your admission his bad is worse than DJ, so better pick and possibly a chance at a QB. Instead we want an extra 2-3 wins from DJ and a continuation of the carousel.

DJ is a lose / lose proposition. AR is a win / win proposition. That’s why this is a stupid fucking decision and everyone is pissed. I can’t wait until “big dick Ballard” and “balls of steel Steichen” are fucking a different fan base.

Steichen very easily could’ve just bowed down and gave the fans what they wanted (AR). Jones is 28 Flacco was 40 last year and he’s a statue back there.

Every coach wants a guy that can run the offense efficiently, walk up read the defense and make the throw when it’s there. AR just relies too much on athleticism and buying time yet missing on the simple play when a guy is schemed open.

This tells me they want to win now, unfortunately for AR the best players on this team are getting up there in age

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

Steichen very easily could’ve just bowed down and gave the fans what they wanted (AR). Jones is 28 Flacco was 40 last year and he’s a statue back there.

Every coach wants a guy that can run the offense efficiently, walk up read the defense and make the throw when it’s there. AR just relies too much on athleticism and buying time yet missing on the simple play when a guy is schemed open.

This tells me they want to win now, unfortunately for AR the best players on this team are getting up there in age

Joe Flacco was a significantly better QB than Jones has ever shown. He was 4-1 as a starter the year before the Colts. Richardson was 6-5 last year. Jones was 2-8 last year and 1-5 the year before.

I’m glad after 9 years a Ballard led team is in win now mode. They’ve fucked this up to no end. Draft the rawest QB prospect ever, start him immediately, then start benching him for scrubs to “win” now in years 2 and 3. It’s perfect Ballard logic.

I’m not sure why Steichen making a stupid decision seems to give you confidence in that decision. This team has made tons of stupid decisions. How many worked out?

[apballin]

Originally Posted by rm1369

Joe Flacco was a significantly better QB than Jones has ever shown. He was 4-1 as a starter the year before the Colts. Richardson was 6-5 last year. Jones was 2-8 last year and 1-5 the year before.

I’m glad after 9 years a Ballard led team is in win now mode. They’ve fucked this up to no end. Draft the rawest QB prospect ever, start him immediately, then start benching him for scrubs to “win” now in years 2 and 3. It’s perfect Ballard logic.

I’m not sure why Steichen making a stupid decision seems to give you confidence in that decision. This team has made tons of stupid decisions. How many worked out?

He wasn’t benched he got injured, I don’t consider his in season suspension a legitimate benching. I agree they botched the entire situation with AR, but they were trying to appease fans because at that point colts fans didn’t care they wanted a qb drafted at 4.

The logic is he’s regressed so you can’t keep forcing him out there to fail when you know he’s not ready. He hasn’t been the same since the shoulder injury in my opinion.

Ballard’s job is clearly on the line so maybe he’s taking an all in approach. I don’t know, I honestly don’t care, I’m sick of being so close to winning a lackluster Division when we have the talent.

Jonathan Taylor is a special back I don’t wanna sit here and watch him waste his career behind one of the best Olineman I’ve ever watched. Not to mention Jim passing away… fuck it the time is now!!!

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

He wasn’t benched he got injured, I don’t consider his in season suspension a legitimate benching. I agree they botched the entire situation with AR, but they were trying to appease fans because at that point colts fans didn’t care they wanted a qb drafted at 4.

The logic is he’s regressed so you can’t keep forcing him out there to fail when you know he’s not ready. He hasn’t been the same since the shoulder injury in my opinion.

Ballard’s job is clearly on the line so maybe he’s taking an all in approach. I don’t know, I honestly don’t care, I’m sick of being so close to winning a lackluster Division when we have the talent.

Jonathan Taylor is a special back I don’t wanna sit here and watch him waste his career behind one of the best Olineman I’ve ever watched. Not to mention Jim passing away… fuck it the time is now!!!

He was benched for Flacco. I’m not sure how you can not count that. It was even the same “reason” as given now - supposedly Flacco gave them a better chance to win. AR only started again because Flacco sucked. The people defending the move said largely the same stuff you are saying now - he gives them a better chance to win and we need to make the playoffs.

Yes, I think Ballard’s job is on the line. That’s the only reason he signed any free agents and attempted to fill most holes. Didn’t do it in his other seasons in charge. Steichen’s is on the line as well. I’m sure that contributes to their decision to see Jones as the answer. It’s still a stupid decision and will help get them fired. That’s the only saving grace for me - finally moving on from them. Especially Ballard. Their best chance at retaining their job was development by AR. Going 8-9 with Jones will just show how inept they both are.

The team is wasting the careers of several really good players, but I’m not particularly a JT fan. Regardless, helping extend the mediocrity for the possibility of a couple extra wins doesn’t make sense to me. And hell, I’m not even sure Jones will win more than AR. For as bad as AR has been, he has a winning record as a starter. And that’s with the BS defense and TE room Ballard gave him.

[nate505]

Originally Posted by apballin

Jonathan Taylor is a special back I don’t wanna sit here and watch him waste his career behind one of the best Olineman I’ve ever watched. Not to mention Jim passing away… fuck it the time is now!!!

I mean, if the time is now, why not get a QB that's much better than Daniel Jones. Like go after Geno Smith or Justin Fields or someone. Hell, I'd rather them have got Drew Lock. Or why not at least go after a QB in the 2nd round of the draft or so.

Maybe Jones will prove me wrong. God I'm hoping he does, I want something to root for this year. But the Colts don't feel special enough to do a lot with just mediocre QB play, and it's hard to envision Jones being better than that. Hell, he got benched for Tommy DeVito in his career.

Richardson may give you horrible QB play. In fact, the odds are he probably will. But I'd rather roll the dice on the off chance you hit snakeyes and he goes out there and throws 60 yard bombs to players or runs for 200 yards a game.

[IndyNorm]

Disappointed but not really surprised as Steichen pretty well tipped his hand by giving Jones the only preseason snaps with the (mostly) #1 offense. Like most of you I'm pretty skeptical on Jones and would have gone w/ AR. Since (at least from what I saw and read) neither of them really separated themselves IMO it makes sense to go w/ the higher upside guy.

Hopefully Jones proves us all wrong, but I am definitely concerned that Jones plays just well enough to get us to the playoffs, then we pay him, and that's followed by him completely shitting the bed like he did in NY.