Culture problems started with Joe Flacco

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I actually don’t think there is a culture problem. I think there are a lot of strong good voices on this team. I think there is a QB problem. AR is 22 and the youngest QB in the league for the second year in a row. I don’t think anyone has sat him down and taught him how to be a pro and a QB. Not in college certainly. That Florida program is crap. But I do like AR’s response to his benching. And he did improve after the benching. I want to see how he does after a full offseason. I dont think ppl get just how young he is. I still want to try and develop him because the AFC is ridiculously tough. You are not going to get through it with average. Right now AR is the best shot at a star QB.

Buckner wouldn't have said what he said if there weren't some locker room cancers that fucked things up this year. I'm guessing it was mostly the podcast brothers he was talking about. Maybe Blackmon too.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

I'm not defending them, they had a bad year and the eyeball test doesn't mitigate the numbers like it did to an extent the previous couple of years.

That said, when your QB is throwing 47%, only like a dozen completions per game, moonshots or short hops easy throws so we can't extend drives, blah blah... It's just a non-starter. It effects both sides of the ball.

The rest of the offense was fine. OL was elite when healthy, had an ugly stretch when 3 starters were out. JT was good, Pitt/Pierce/Downs can play if you can get them the ball, and TEs were underwhelming.

I agree on AR.

I just think they could have been successful with AR and JT and a run heavy offense if they had had a strong defense.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I agree on AR.

I just think they could have been successful with AR and JT and a run heavy offense if they had had a strong defense.

If e had tried that approach all year long, we would know for sure. Shane did not go run heavy until it was too late for this season.

Which makes me think this tear was a wash from the start, because the only goal was to develop AR as a passer. Then they switched QBs midstream to try to win now, and it backfired.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

If e had tried that approach all year long, we would know for sure. Shane did not go run heavy until it was too late for this season.

Which makes me think this tear was a wash from the start, because the only goal was to develop AR as a passer. Then they switched QBs midstream to try to win now, and it backfired.

It’s because the team lacks a plan and a vision. I’ve been saying it for years. Ballard has never shown a cohesive plan to win. From Luck, to Rivers, to Wentz, to Ryan he has never supported the QB with the rest of the roster. It’s a hodgepodge of shit. Sign a QB on the verge of retirement but treat the rest of the roster (especially WR) like a multi year rebuild. Trade for an old immobile QB, depend on a journeyman guard and a rookie 3rd round pick who has only played the position for two years to protect him at LT. is it really a surprise that AR had no real vet mentor, a RB that is horrible is pass pro, TEs that can’t catch, and a mediocre D? Not to anyone that has watched Ballard operate. The one thing I can guarantee you is that Ballard wasn’t trying to win by benching AR. He has never been playoffs or bust. Never.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

I'm not defending them, they had a bad year and the eyeball test doesn't mitigate the numbers like it did to an extent the previous couple of years.

That said, when your QB is throwing 47%, only like a dozen completions per game, moonshots or short hops easy throws so we can't extend drives, blah blah... It's just a non-starter. It effects both sides of the ball.

The rest of the offense was fine. OL was elite when healthy, had an ugly stretch when 3 starters were out. JT was good, Pitt/Pierce/Downs can play if you can get them the ball, and TEs were underwhelming.

Warren for Penn State is projected to go 15-17, the Colts could fix their TE problem with one pick!

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Warren for Penn State is projected to go 15-17, the Colts could fix their TE problem with one pick!

WAS projected...

I said it in another thread, I'm pretty sure I jinxed us by mentioning him a month ago. Dude is just steadily climbing up the draft boards. I hope it happens for us.

[Racehorse]

Stuard spoke out about going to Detroit, and this was a takeaway: In Detroit, Stuard he believes he's joining a like-minded defense and linebacker room, something he felt up close in the Lions' 24-6 win over the Colts last November.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/n...e/82404923007/

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Stuard spoke out about going to Detroit, and this was a takeaway: In Detroit, Stuard he believes he's joining a like-minded defense and linebacker room, something he felt up close in the Lions' 24-6 win over the Colts last November.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/n...e/82404923007/

In other words, his LB teammates were a bunch of pussies and his coaches reluctant do anything about it?

[Kray007]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Stuard spoke out about going to Detroit, and this was a takeaway: In Detroit, Stuard he believes he's joining a like-minded defense and linebacker room, something he felt up close in the Lions' 24-6 win over the Colts last November.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/n...e/82404923007/

Grant Stuard’s role in the Lion’s Linebacker room will be fetching doughnuts and making sure the coffee pot is full. Not saying he’s a bad player, but he’s a Joe. You need those in case disaster strikes, but he’s like a FEMA trailer. You’re glad to have one after the tornado wipes out the homestead, but you wouldn’t want to make it your permanent home.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Kray007

Grant Stuard’s role in the Lion’s Linebacker room will be fetching doughnuts and making sure the coffee pot is full. Not saying he’s a bad player, but he’s a Joe. You need those in case disaster strikes, but he’s like a FEMA trailer. You’re glad to have one after the tornado wipes out the homestead, but you wouldn’t want to make it your permanent home.

Al true, but it does not negate the fact that he saw players with more talent on the field, but not working as hard as they should. We need guys who work and play hard as Stuard did for us. Maybe that is why Ballard let Speed walk.