Post-Combine, Pre-Pro Day QB Preference

[Spike]

I would go with Stroud.

Same concerns for Young as everyone else, just too damn small.

Levis, eh, who knows.

AR is tempting, but accuracy issues scare me a bit.

One thing for certain is we will end up with one of these guys.

My order of preference is:

1. Stroud
2. AR
3. Young
4. Levis

[Oldcolt]

I now am on board with AR as my first choice. The thing that persuaded me is that this kid has only one year of college football. Lucks percentage completion his first year at Stanford was 56.3. This kid is no Luck but he didn't even have a quarterback coach at Florida. He has had so little coaching that if after the Colts do their due diligence (you know they will be thorough) and there are no red flags go for it. The offense Phili ran last year is totally tailored for a player like AR.

1 AR
2 Stroud
3 Young
4. Levis

[Brylok]

No "none of the above" option?

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I now am on board with AR as my first choice. The thing that persuaded me is that this kid has only one year of college football. Lucks percentage completion his first year at Stanford was 56.3. This kid is no Luck but he didn't even have a quarterback coach at Florida. He has had so little coaching that if after the Colts do their due diligence (you know they will be thorough) and there are no red flags go for it. The offense Phili ran last year is totally tailored for a player like AR.

1 AR
2 Stroud
3 Young
4. Levis

Same order, but I’d go Richardson for the same reason. He’s a bigger faster Hurts and that would give opposing defenses nightmares

[Ironshaft]

Originally Posted by Spike

My order of preference is:

1. Stroud
2. AR
3. Young
4. Levis

100% agree.

[Dam8610]

Stroud is the clear cut #1 above everyone else. He's worth trading for the #1 pick to get. He's not with 3 1s, but 3 1s would be a massive overpay historically speaking to move from 4 to 1. I'd be willing to do a Manning/Rivers type trade if that's what it took to get to 1, that being this year's 1 and 3 and next year's 1 and 5, a package which is well short of the nonsense being talked about in the media. That said, my ideal trade would be the 4th pick, Jonathan Taylor, and Shaquille Leonard for the first pick. Re-sign Bobby Okereke, save DeForest Buckner for Stroud's rookie contract run, and, most importantly, preserve all of that draft capital for future use. That trade combined with a Day 1 and Day 2 of CJ Stroud, Calijah Kancey, and someone like Steve Avila would have me excited for the 2023 season to start.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Spike

I would go with Stroud.

Same concerns for Young as everyone else, just too damn small.

Levis, eh, who knows.

AR is tempting, but accuracy issues scare me a bit.

One thing for certain is we will end up with one of these guys.

My order of preference is:

1. Stroud
2. AR
3. Young
4. Levis

Same order


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[ChaosTheory]

Interesting so far. For being the consensus #1 in the mainstream, this board has been consistently cautious about Young.

Lov2fish has been on the Levis train, but it looks like everyone else has bailed. A month or two ago, he seemed about as popular as Richardson currently is.

Originally Posted by Dam8610

He's not with 3 1s, but 3 1s would be a massive overpay historically speaking to move from 4 to 1. I'd be willing to do a Manning/Rivers type trade if that's what it took to get to 1, that being this year's 1 and 3 and next year's 1 and 5, a package which is well short of the nonsense being talked about in the media.

I can't decide where the leverage is with this whole situation. There are so many variables it'll make you dizzy. The market is the market, so it's going to be expensive.

The question I have is how by the balls does CHI still have IND if, hypothetically, HOU wins the bidding war for #1? Colts still need a QB and SEA is right behind them. Is SEA willing to start a separate bidding war for #2? They do have multiple 1st's and 2nd's this year if they wanted to.

Couldn't CHI realistically trade #1 to HOU for a big haul and then trade #2 to either IND or SEA for another lesser, but still big, haul and STILL end up with one of the two best players in the draft (Carter/Anderson)?

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Interesting so far. For being the consensus #1 in the mainstream, this board has been consistently cautious about Young.

Lov2fish has been on the Levis train, but it looks like everyone else has bailed. A month or two ago, he seemed about as popular as Richardson currently is.



I can't decide where the leverage is with this whole situation. There are so many variables it'll make you dizzy. The market is the market, so it's going to be expensive.

The question I have is how by the balls does CHI still have IND if, hypothetically, HOU wins the bidding war for #1? Colts still need a QB and SEA is right behind them. Is SEA willing to start a separate bidding war for #2? They do have multiple 1st's and 2nd's this year if they wanted to.

Couldn't CHI realistically trade #1 to HOU for a big haul and then trade #2 to either IND or SEA for another lesser, but still big, haul and STILL end up with one of the two best players in the draft (Carter/Anderson)?

IMO the answer is the leverage is about even. I think this Carter thing blows over and he will still be a top 4 pick. That means 4 is way more valuable than 5. Like I said, if it must be done, a Manning/Rivers type trade is acceptable, but not much, if any, more than that. Obviously, though, I'd prefer players be used in lieu of draft capital, especially because Chicago is the most ideally set up team to take players from the Colts given their HC's familiarity with Colts players and their GM's familiarity with the Colts front office.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

IMO the answer is the leverage is about even. I think this Carter thing blows over and he will still be a top 4 pick. That means 4 is way more valuable than 5. Like I said, if it must be done, a Manning/Rivers type trade is acceptable, but not much, if any, more than that. Obviously, though, I'd prefer players be used in lieu of draft capital, especially because Chicago is the most ideally set up team to take players from the Colts given their HC's familiarity with Colts players and their GM's familiarity with the Colts front office.

I agree about Carter. But IND is still taking a QB at #4 even if they don't work out a trade, don't you think? Which opens up SEA as another possibility for CHI to trade with and still get Carter/Anderson.

And ultimately all I'm saying with all of that is... An expensive trade up looks like it could get even more expensive when you consider those downstream factors.