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Old 01-26-2023, 03:22 PM
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First head coach hired. They wanted him because of his success working with quarterbacks.

I wish him luck. And I think he’ll be successful.

He got royally screwed here.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...as-head-coach/
Developing QB's? Luck was already developed, Brissett never improved, Rivers was already developed, Wentz was a disaster and Ryan was already developed, but regressed.
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Old 01-26-2023, 04:43 PM
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Developing QB's? Luck was already developed, Brissett never improved, Rivers was already developed, Wentz was a disaster and Ryan was already developed, but regressed.
Lol. Luck and Brissett had career years under Reich. Wentz had his best season since 2018 under Reich and then completely fell apart this season. Rivers had a really good season at 39 years old under Reich.

Say what you will about Frank as a coach but saying he isn’t good at working with quarterbacks shows you have no idea what you’re talking about. Clueless.

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Old 01-26-2023, 05:30 PM
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More from Florio.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ts-right-away/

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The fact that Reich landed on his feet without sitting out a season becomes a potential referendum on the decision to fire him in the first place. It puts extra pressure on the Colts and owner Jim Irsay to win the game at Carolina — especially if Irsay ultimately picks surprise interim hire Jeff Saturday, who went 2-6 in eight games, to be the head coach moving forward.
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Old 01-26-2023, 05:52 PM
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Carolina was playing well to end the year and seemed to be turning the corner making a late run at the playoffs.

If they regress, the fans are going to point to him as the reason.

He did not get screwed here- he screwed himself here.
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Old 01-26-2023, 06:03 PM
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Carolina was playing well to end the year and seemed to be turning the corner making a late run at the playoffs.

If they regress, the fans are going to point to him as the reason.

He did not get screwed here- he screwed himself here.
He was scapegoated here. That’s just reality.

That he was the first coach hired and Carolina hired him after interviewing Sean Payton says all you need to know about what the league thinks of him as a coach and who was at fault for what happened in Indy.
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Old 01-26-2023, 06:57 PM
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He was scapegoated here. That’s just reality.

That he was the first coach hired and Carolina hired him after interviewing Sean Payton says all you need to know about what the league thinks of him as a coach and who was at fault for what happened in Indy.
Reich made one mistake that appears to have been unforgivable to Irsay and a certain segment of the fan base - he believed He could fix Wentz. Ballard and Irsay get constant reasons or excuses for their failures at QB. Reich took the weight of all of their failures with his one failure. Colts fans will likely wish they had Reich back. Especially if Saturday “wins” the job.
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He coached Peyton Manning And I am sure PM gave his endorsement

Some of you are aver the top with criticism. Its stupid
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Reich made one mistake that appears to have been unforgivable to Irsay and a certain segment of the fan base - he believed He could fix Wentz. Ballard and Irsay get constant reasons or excuses for their failures at QB. Reich took the weight of all of their failures with his one failure. Colts fans will likely wish they had Reich back. Especially if Saturday “wins” the job.
A couple of things. Not only did he say that he could fix Wentz, but he persuaded the team to ship a first and a third round draft pick to Philly in order to acquire the Quarterback who, even the most blind observer could see, was irretrievably broken. The following year, he was at it, again, getting Ballard to ante up a 3rd round pick for Matt Ryan.

Between those two bozo’s, Jim Irsay shelled out the better part of $60 Million in hard, cold cash.

In addition, for whatever reason, he didn’t seem able to recruit and retain a high quality coaching staff. When Eberflus and Siriani left, they took the cream of the coaching staff with them. At the end of the day,you have to ask yourself if you want a head coach who can’t attract a better offensive coordinator than Marcus Brady?
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Reich made one mistake that appears to have been unforgivable to Irsay and a certain segment of the fan base - he believed He could fix Wentz. Ballard and Irsay get constant reasons or excuses for their failures at QB. Reich took the weight of all of their failures with his one failure. Colts fans will likely wish they had Reich back. Especially if Saturday “wins” the job.
How much impact did he have on the decision to bring in Matt Ryan? I mean after Wentz and then Ryan, somebody's head had to roll...probably should have been two heads!
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He was scapegoated here. That’s just reality.

That he was the first coach hired and Carolina hired him after interviewing Sean Payton says all you need to know about what the league thinks of him as a coach and who was at fault for what happened in Indy.
Eh. I guess you could say scapegoated. I think there were a lot of problems in the organization. I think frank overall was a good coach, probably a better OC or QB coach, but fine as a HC. Ultimately I think the team was sort of spiraling downward and he was not going to be able to bring it back with his voice/methods. I think irsay saw this and wanted a change, thus he was let go with the intent of losing, getting a high pick and starting over with a new staff.

Dont compare his hiring with sean payton. Payton would require compensation to the saints which could be a huge factor in carolina's decision.
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