So....thoughts of trading up for the #1 pick?

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I can not for the life of me see why in the hell it is relevant that a school has or hasn't produced great NFL QBs before. Schools don't have a great QB until they do. There is no magic that rubs off or doesn't just because you went to some specific school.

Scout the player not the helmet. You can scout the program, how they teach and the quality of what they teach. But just looking at the symbol on the helmet, that doesn’t do anything.

For example: The quality of the coaching at Bama is so good, teams say that the players are maxed out and that they might not have as high a ceiling as other guys. What you see in college is close to what you see in pros.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I can not for the life of me see why in the hell it is relevant that a school has or hasn't produced great NFL QBs before. Schools don't have a great QB until they do. There is no magic that rubs off or doesn't just because you went to some specific school.

Whats the old Woody Hays quote?

When you pass the ball three things can happen in two of them are bad.

Taylors first 2 years he had 1000 yard seasons. This year, he couldnt stay health and the Colts couldnt block, he gained less than 900 yards.

If the Colts, draft any Qb, they had better sign some FA’s O linemen and draft as many mobile O linemen as they can, so they can keep who ever is back there from taking a beating. Qb or Rb

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I can not for the life of me see why in the hell it is relevant that a school has or hasn't produced great NFL QBs before. Schools don't have a great QB until they do. There is no magic that rubs off or doesn't just because you went to some specific school.

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I believe that when people see coincidences piling up, they like to point it out and talk about it ...... even if they don't really believe that it's necessarily relevant, it's a "thing", and people (in general) tend to gravitate towards "things."

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[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

I don't prescribe to the theory that OSU can't produce a good QB, because of past failures.

But I do prescribe to the theory that somehow we are cursed with Ohio State players. This goes all the way back to Schlicther and continues with Quitcock, Doss, Gonzalez, Lewis, Campbell, Hooker, Mewhort, Hartsock. Did I miss anyone?

As someone who lived through Schlicther and who does believe in the football gods this makes complete logical sense to me. Your list is painful.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

I don't prescribe to the theory that OSU can't produce a good QB, because of past failures.

But I do prescribe to the theory that somehow we are cursed with Ohio State players ...... this goes all the way back to Art Schlicther and continues with Quitcock, Doss, Gonzalez, Lewis, Campbell, Hooker, Mewhort, Hartsock ...... did I miss anyone ???

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

As someone who lived through Schlicther and who does believe in the football Gods, this makes complete logical sense to me. Your list is painful.

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Ohio State did have one college quarterback whom the Colts converted into a running back ...... and then turned him back into a quarterback out of desperation.






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[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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Ohio State did have one college quarterback whom the Colts converted into a running back ...... and then turned him back into a quarterback out of desperation.






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Yes, I know. Jim Parker was also from Ohio State. That's why it's the curse of Art Schlichter. This all happened after Sclichter.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Yes, I know. Jim Parker was also from Ohio State. That's why it's the curse of Art Schlichter. This all happened after Schlichter.

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Parris Campbell had his healthiest (and best) season so far, and that was with with a horrible offensive line that was blocking for his quarterbacks ...... at 25 years-old, I'm looking forward to seeing him in 2023 and beyond, especially if the Colts improve both the offensive line and the quarterback position.

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[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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Parris Campbell had his healthiest (and best) season so far, and that was with with a horrible offensive line that was blocking for his quarterbacks ...... at 25 years-old, I'm looking forward to seeing him in 2023 and beyond, especially if the Colts improve both the offensive line and the quarterback position.

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There's reason to be excited about Campbell. He flashed his explosiveness on the rare occasions our offense could execute. But he was reduced to a possession receiver in most instances. Which is good that he showed he could do that as well, not just be a gimmick and deep-ball guy.

If the QB/OL situation can stretch the field more (couldn't possibly be less), I think he'll do well.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

I don't prescribe to the theory that OSU can't produce a good QB, because of past failures.

But I do prescribe to the theory that somehow we are cursed with Ohio State players. This goes all the way back to Schlicther and continues with Quitcock, Doss, Gonzalez, Lewis, Campbell, Hooker, Mewhort, Hartsock. Did I miss anyone?

OFCOURSE you did and how dare you forget the legend of Roy fuckin Hall

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I believe that when people see coincidences piling up, they like to point it out and talk about it ...... even if they don't really believe that it's necessarily relevant, it's a "thing", and people (in general) tend to gravitate towards "things."

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I dont agree with that. When Joe Tiller showed up for Purdue, he brought the idea of basket ball on grass and he recruited Qbs that could execute this game plan. He found fast skinny kids who could catch and run, even if it was on the back canvas

What do they do well in Wisconsin? Run the ball. They recruit guys who are as wide as they are tall and block the hell out of the opposing D. The weather is cold and snowy and a good running game doesnt care about the weather.

For years Fisher De Barry ran the wishbone/wingbone, and won a ton of games. He didnt have the biggest, or the fastest, but he more often than not, he had the smartest. They ran the ball on everyone. A smart Qb made the D wrong, and put the ball where it needed to go. Navy just finished a 10 year plus of competitive football letting smart guys think.

Winning teams have winning plans. If I’m USC, passing is going to a big part of my offense. If I’m Nebraska, I going back to recruiting and building my team from home grown talent and getting them into the weight room. Go back to getting the best talent from Dakotas and Wyoming. Then line up and run the ball.