2022 NFL Free Agency

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Stop that, using facts.

You're the one who's been saying for months now that it's all Monopoly money and teams work around cap issues all of the time, so who cares if Ballard spends too much of Irsay's money. Now you're ok with Ballard hoarding cap space like it goes straight to his bank account b/c we have a few guys we need to re-sign down the road.

If the only way Ballard is capable of re-signing his own draft picks is by hoarding 10s of millions of dollars in cap space every year, then he needs to bring in someone to help him with long term cap management or replace the people on his staff that are currently supposed to help with this. Everything other decent team in the league is able to sign FAs who aren't in the bargain bin and re-sign their own. Why is it so tough for Ballard to do so, especially when he has the most cap space in the league?

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

You're the one who's been saying for months now that it's all Monopoly money and teams work around cap issues all of the time, so who cares if Ballard spends too much of Irsay's money. Now you're ok with Ballard hoarding cap space like it goes straight to his bank account b/c we have a few guys we need to re-sign down the road.

If the only way Ballard is capable of re-signing his own draft picks is by hoarding 10s of millions of dollars in cap space every year, then he needs to bring in someone to help him with long term cap management or replace the people on his staff that are currently supposed to help with this. Everything other decent team in the league is able to sign FAs who aren't in the bargain bin and re-sign their own. Why is it so tough for Ballard to do so, especially when he has the most cap space in the league?

Sign Mayfield and that great big cap space disappears. So before they can even talk to mayfield, they need to find if a deal is possible.

1. What do the Browns want to make a trade.
2. Will Baker renegotiate a reasonable contract now? If they dont get a restructure with years, incentives , ect. What would be the point.
3. Hoe many picks do the Colts give Up

Thats the short list. Gee whiz, why would you want Ballard to just throw a bucket of money and picks for a guy the Browns want to dump?

I’m for spending money on quality players. This isnt brady or Manning. He’s as big a risk as Wentz.

I can be patient as Ballard tries to make the best deal possible

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Sign Mayfield and that great big cap space disappears. So before they can even talk to mayfield, they need to find if a deal is possible.

1. What do the Browns want to make a trade.
2. Will Baker renegotiate a reasonable contract now? If they dont get a restructure with years, incentives , ect. What would be the point.
3. Hoe many picks do the Colts give Up

Thats the short list. Gee whiz, why would you want Ballard to just throw a bucket of money and picks for a guy the Browns want to dump?

I’m for spending money on quality players. This isnt brady or Manning. He’s as big a risk as Wentz.

I can be patient as Ballard tries to make the best deal possible

I think you're getting confused again Jaff. This is the thread where some of us are bitching that Ballard never brings in any quality FAs. The Baker Mayfield debate is on another thread.

You do make some good points though.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

I think you're getting confused again Jaff. This is the thread where some of us are bitching that Ballard never brings in any quality FAs. The Baker Mayfield debate is on another thread.

You do make some good points though.

Thanks. Yeah, I’m on a tablet, Ido better on my computer keeping track of threads

[ChaosTheory]

Color me shocked that the Raiders are active in free agency. They'll also probably draft a kid that runs a 4.2. They also just had their second 10-win season in the past 20 years (because there was an extra game). Ballard, don't model us after them. Tell me Carr wouldn't have a better W/L under Ballard/Reich than he's had with the Raiders the past few years.

I'm not crucifying Ballard for mediocrity when this league is so goddamn skewed towards the QB and he's had Brissett (backup), Luck (double-digit wins), Brissett (backup), Rivers (double-digit wins), and Wentz.

We saw the team that a free agent head GM put around Luck. I don't need to see LaRon Landry, Trent Richardson, Hakeem Nicks, Trent Cole, Todd Herremans, etc. get signed to feel like my GM knows what he's doing.

You guys are acting like A.) Ballard never goes out and gets players, and B.) All of the holes on this team need to be filled by free agents right now, and C.) Some of these guys who signed with other teams would've been signed by the Colts if you were GM.

Anyway, it feels silly arguing about this before it's even done. If you wake up Monday morning and Armstead and Ryan are Colts, all of this is moot.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Anyway, it feels silly arguing about this before it's even done. If you wake up Monday morning and Armstead and Ryan are Colts, all of this is moot.

We can't afford to sign Armstead and take on Ryan's contract. We only have ~$40M in cap space left and need to make sure there's enough left 5 years from now to re-sign Paye and Dayo in case they become good players along with anyone we draft this year that pans out.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

We can't afford to sign Armstead and take on Ryan's contract. We only have ~$40M in cap space left and need to make sure there's enough left 5 years from now to re-sign Paye and Dayo in case they become good players along with anyone we draft this year that pans out.

Damn, dude. Why strawman? I thought for a minute we were having an honest discussion and disagreeing. Knock yourself out if you want to go this route.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Color me shocked that the Raiders are active in free agency. They'll also probably draft a kid that runs a 4.2. They also just had their second 10-win season in the past 20 years (because there was an extra game). Ballard, don't model us after them. Tell me Carr wouldn't have a better W/L under Ballard/Reich than he's had with the Raiders the past few years.

I'm not crucifying Ballard for mediocrity when this league is so goddamn skewed towards the QB and he's had Brissett (backup), Luck (double-digit wins), Brissett (backup), Rivers (double-digit wins), and Wentz.

We saw the team that a free agent head GM put around Luck. I don't need to see LaRon Landry, Trent Richardson, Hakeem Nicks, Trent Cole, Todd Herremans, etc. get signed to feel like my GM knows what he's doing.

You guys are acting like A.) Ballard never goes out and gets players, and B.) All of the holes on this team need to be filled by free agents right now, and C.) Some of these guys who signed with other teams would've been signed by the Colts if you were GM.

Anyway, it feels silly arguing about this before it's even done. If you wake up Monday morning and Armstead and Ryan are Colts, all of this is moot.

I don't want Ryan, he's to fuckin old, and Armstead will be a Dolphin by Monday!

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

I don't want Ryan, he's to fuckin old, and Armstead will be a Dolphin by Monday!

Just an example. I tend to think we don't get either of them. I've never been a Ryan fan, but it's a pretty unfortunate group to choose from.

I don't know what the holdup is with Armstead signing somewhere unless it's injuries.