Frank reich is horrible

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by rm1369

I was also responding to your sarcasm about an argument I’ve never made and I’m not sure anyone here has made - that Ballard is the reason Reich called the plays he did. I think some of the criticism is valid and some is over blown. However you can look at the several threads trashing Reich to see him being trashed for the GM decisions he doesn’t make to blaming Eberflus on him and not Ballard. That’s where I’ve primarily called BS and pointed out how Teflon Ballard has been.

Injuries, pass rush, QB play (Wentz mistakes, no viable backup, antvax issue), and then probably a tie between initial OL depth and play calling. Those are my biggest issues on the season.

I don’t have all 22 but my memory from being at the game was Tenn was playing the run and giving the pass. The Colts passing game left several plays on the field that were there. I also remember a few successful RPOs that were passes. In both cases taking what the defense gives you. I remember 3 running plays resulting in holding calls - putting the team in holes and common passing situations. But yes I still agree they could have ran a little more. In particular on 3rd down at the 38 leading 14-0. Going for it on 4th was the right call but 3rd down should have been a run if he knew he was going for it. 4th likely should have been too. The TE screen was a bad call. I liked passing - Tenn was geared for run but it should have been a roll out for Wentz with an option to throw it, throw it away, or run it. I have no problem with the OT play call. Wentz made stupid fucking decision and had multiple others opened - including Taylor in the open field.

Reich was asked about the run pass ratio and the rpo’s were something he mentioned. Basically, he said there were 6 rpo’s that ended up as passes and the 2 minute drills at the half and the end of the game were what skewed the numbers a little. Also, that the Titans were trying to take the run away.

I have several issues with that. First, Taylor is the best player you have. You get him the ball even if you have to force it. Taylor had 26 carries in two games against the Titans, the two biggest games of the year. That’s not enough. That’s on Reich.

2nd, even conceding that they were trying to take Taylor away, they weren’t being successful. The holding calls were the main thing stopping Taylor yesterday. The Titans never really did.

3rd, Wentz got progressively worse as the game went on and he’s not really a carry the team on his back guy in the first place. The 4th quarter and overtime should have been Taylor time. Especially overtime.

All of those things go squarely on Reichs shoulders.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Reich was asked about the run pass ratio and the rpo’s were something he mentioned. Basically, he said there were 6 rpo’s that ended up as passes and the 2 minute drills at the half and the end of the game were what skewed the numbers a little. Also, that the Titans were trying to take the run away.

I have several issues with that. First, Taylor is the best player you have. You get him the ball even if you have to force it. Taylor had 26 carries in two games against the Titans, the two biggest games of the year. That’s not enough. That’s on Reich.

2nd, even conceding that they were trying to take Taylor away, they weren’t being successful. The holding calls were the main thing stopping Taylor yesterday. The Titans never really did.

3rd, Wentz got progressively worse as the game went on and he’s not really a carry the team on his back guy in the first place. The 4th quarter and overtime should have been Taylor time. Especially overtime.

All of those things go squarely on Reichs shoulders.

The 2 minute drills skewed it. Excuse maker. You control the calls during the 2 min drills dickwad. Go away.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

The 2 minute drills skewed it. Excuse maker. You control the calls during the 2 min drills dickwad. Go away.

This is exactly the type of BS I’m talking about. In the 1st half and end of regulation drives the Colts scored 10 points. One ending with no time remaining and one ending with 22 seconds remaining. By most measures that fairly successful. There were 16 passes and 3 runs. If you want to complain about the int play call in regulation fine. Do so, it’s valid. Your comment here is just worthless BS.

I went to go see just how big an idiot Reich is for his apparently near criminal misuse of Taylor. He’s 11th in the league in rushes per game. 5 of the 10 players ahead of him have already missed games for injury (or are now injured). Including the top 2 in Henry and Cook. He’s also 11th in touches per game, but climbs to fourth in total touches. 3 of the top 5 guys in touches per game have already (McCaffrey, Cook) or will (Henry) miss multiple games.

I’d like to see Taylor get 2-3 more touches per game. I don’t want to see him used like Henry.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by rm1369

This is exactly the type of BS I’m talking about. 2 minute football tends to be pass happy unless someone is trying to run the clock out. That was the situation. In the 1st half and end of regulation drives the Colts scored 10 points. One ending with no time remaining and one ending with 22 seconds remaining. By most measures that’s pretty damn successful. There were 15 passes called and 3 runs. Taylor had 3 touches - two rushes and a catch. One run was a TD.

I went to go see just how big an idiot Reich is for his apparently near criminal misuse of Taylor. He’s 11th in the league in rushes per game. 5 of the 10 players ahead of him have already missed games for injury (or are now injured). Including the top 2 in Henry and Cook. He’s also 11th in touches per game, but climbs to fourth in total touches. 3 of the top 5 guys in touches per game have already (McCaffrey, Cook) or will (Henry) miss multiple games.

I’d like to see Taylor get 2-3 more touches per game. I don’t want to see him used like Henry.

Wow, so we are now in the realm of load management to prevent injury. Guess what, no one even knows the World Series is being played other than people in two cities. No one cares. Why, because baseball dove into load management and now games are just a joke and the audience has abandoned the sport.

F it, might as well, Roger has already turned it into flag football, might as well go all the way down the rabbit hole. F it, next time an Andrew Luck type talent comes up and he's there to be had, pass on that talent because afterall, probably going to get injured so why pay someone to get hurt.

This is sad.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Wow, so we are now in the realm of load management to prevent injury. Guess what, no one even knows the World Series is being played other than people in two cities. No one cares. Why, because baseball dove into load management and now games are just a joke and the audience has abandoned the sport.

F it, might as well, Roger has already turned it into flag football, might as well go all the way down the rabbit hole. F it, next time an Andrew Luck type talent comes up and he's there to be had, pass on that talent because afterall, probably going to get injured so why pay someone to get hurt.

This is sad.

I have no fucking idea what you are even saying. Is load management a consideration in the NFL? Fuck yeah it is. Am I saying Reich didn’t run Taylor because of workload? Nope, never said that. I said I went to go see how badly Reich was using him compared to other backs and I see that he’s slightly low on per game averages and near the top in totals. Why? Because of injury for the other high use backs. And I said that I’d like to see 2-3 more touches per game but not a Henry like workload. If you think a Henry like workload is in the best interest of the team it just shows how little you understand about the game.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by rm1369

I have no fucking idea what you are even saying. Is load management a consideration in the NFL? Fuck yeah it is. Am I saying Reich didn’t run Taylor because of workload? Nope, never said that. I said I went to go see how badly Reich was using him compared to other backs and I see that he’s slightly low on per game averages and near the top in totals. Why? Because of injury for the other high use backs. And I said that I’d like to see 2-3 more touches per game but not a Henry like workload. If you think a Henry like workload is in the best interest of the team it just shows how little you understand about the game.

They run Henry a lot, because they know that's how they can win a lot of games. It's really not that deep. I would put Tanny and Wentz on roughly the same level. One coach realizes that the law of averages says that if Tanny throws it 40+ times, well there will probably be a 2 or 3 really bad events that happen and that reduces their chances of winning games. Whereas if Henry runs it 25+, there will probably be 2 or 3 really great events, events which will enhance their chances of winning games. Thus he goes with what is going to give his team the best chance to win a game, make the playoffs and perhaps win a SB. If the running back gets hurt, well thems the breaks, it is the NFL afterall.

Our coach, appears to eschew wins, playoffs, and potential SB's because, well I guess because in the long view, 51 pass attempts from a mid level QB provides better odds of winning games than does 25 runs by what is perhaps the leagues best back, at least the 2nd best.

Makes sense, lots of it.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

They run Henry a lot, because they know that's how they can win a lot of games. It's really not that deep. I would put Tanny and Wentz on roughly the same level. One coach realizes that the law of averages says that if Tanny throws it 40+ times, well there will probably be a 2 or 3 really bad events that happen and that reduces their chances of winning games. Whereas if Henry runs it 25+, there will probably be 2 or 3 really great events, events which will enhance their chances of winning games. Thus he goes with what is going to give his team the best chance to win a game, make the playoffs and perhaps win a SB. If the running back gets hurt, well thems the breaks, it is the NFL afterall.

Our coach, appears to eschew wins, playoffs, and potential SB's because, well I guess because in the long view, 51 pass attempts from a mid level QB provides better odds of winning games than does 25 runs by what is perhaps the leagues best back, at least the 2nd best.

Makes sense, lots of it.

Bring on the gladiators! They are sub-human, and disposible. Our entertainment is more important!

[apballin]

Originally Posted by rm1369

This is exactly the type of BS I’m talking about. In the 1st half and end of regulation drives the Colts scored 10 points. One ending with no time remaining and one ending with 22 seconds remaining. By most measures that fairly successful. There were 16 passes and 3 runs. If you want to complain about the int play call in regulation fine. Do so, it’s valid. Your comment here is just worthless BS.

I went to go see just how big an idiot Reich is for his apparently near criminal misuse of Taylor. He’s 11th in the league in rushes per game. 5 of the 10 players ahead of him have already missed games for injury (or are now injured). Including the top 2 in Henry and Cook. He’s also 11th in touches per game, but climbs to fourth in total touches. 3 of the top 5 guys in touches per game have already (McCaffrey, Cook) or will (Henry) miss multiple games.

I’d like to see Taylor get 2-3 more touches per game. I don’t want to see him used like Henry.

All the names you mentioned have also been highly PAID so I’m beginning to wonder if that’s what they truly trying to avoid after JT has a monster year

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

All the names you mentioned have also been highly PAID so I’m beginning to wonder if that’s what they truly trying to avoid after JT has a monster year

I’d say it’s more likely they are honest when they say they want a balanced offense. They are 14th in the league for run play percentage. Slightly on the run side of middle of the league. I’d like to see them a little higher, but they are nowhere near as pass happy as some would suggest.

And Irsay has never had an issue paying people. Taylor is 3rd in the league for total yards. He’s behind Henry and Kupp, with Henry now hurt. If they are trying to avoid paying him 2 years from now they aren’t doing a great job. I do think they’d have an issue with him averaging 29.6 touches a game like Henry though. Of course I agree with them.

[MeSayDayo]

Originally Posted by rm1369

I’d say it’s more likely they are honest when they say they want a balanced offense. They are 14th in the league for run play percentage. Slightly on the run side of middle of the league. I’d like to see them a little higher, but they are nowhere near as pass happy as some would suggest.

And Irsay has never had an issue paying people. Taylor is 3rd in the league for total yards. He’s behind Henry and Kupp, with Henry now hurt. If they are trying to avoid paying him 2 years from now they aren’t doing a great job. I do think they’d have an issue with him averaging 29.6 touches a game like Henry though. Of course I agree with them.

It's not so much that people are upset with us being overtly pass happy. It is WHEN we are choosing to be pass happy, and putting the ball in a mistake prone Wentz when we should be pounding away with JT.

On his current usage (which we all feel is underutilized), Taylor is on pace for 250 + carries, 1300 + rushing, 12 + TDs rushing, approx. 45 catches (55 targets) for 500 + yards and maybe 3 more receiving TDs.

In my humble opinion, a back that nears 2000 all purpose yards is being utilized just fine. In fact, if he reaches those numbers while avoiding injury (knock on wood), then we have done even better with him.

Pass and Run split is fine. But we need to start running Taylor when we should be (and when the other team thinks we will) because its working regardless and it sets up the pass for Carson to have much clearer throwing lanes.

Either way our season is down the shitter anyway and we need to find a cleanup foot surgery for Wentz around Week 12. I would also consider moving Big Q by days end as well, because we could probably get a 1st for him and use it in an area of greater need. I love Q, but he has proven to be playing an expendable position.