Cap news

[Puck]

Originally Posted by JAFF

If the cap is lower, teams will be forced to renegotiate or cut players who can now renegotiate their deals to get under the cap

But then other teams have no money to sign them

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Puck

But then other teams have no money to sign them

Its all funny money. You shift money forward, call it bonuses, bullshit highway robbery bonus, but the players ring money out of the owners and gain years on the contracts that are not guaranteed but they have more security, cutting them gets expensive

Plus, while I can only guess, the NFLPA loves fucking the owners when they can. Ive been on the players end as an employee and making the bosses squirm when they get over their head feels good

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Its all funny money. You shift money forward, call it bonuses, bullshit highway robbery bonus, but the players ring money out of the owners and gain years on the contracts that are not guaranteed but they have more security, cutting them gets expensive

Plus, while I can only guess, the NFLPA loves fucking the owners when they can. Ive been on the players end as an employee and making the bosses squirm when they get over their head feels good

Makes even less sense now.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Makes even less sense now.

Nothing makes sense about NFL and money. How much money was Brees suppose to make but he renegotiated it to save them from cap hell.

A lower cap allows players on a short contract to negotiate more years into the future when there will be more money when the fans come back. The pros get paid and the rookies get shit. They dont belong to the union, so what are they going to do?

Since when have the owners used good sense when it comes to spending. They wanna win, you keep vets. Renegotiate and move on

[Ironshaft]

At the end of the day, if the salary cap for 2021 is $190m, then there are 13 teams that basically have zero cap space to sign anyone not already under contract, their 2021 rookie class, 2021 practice squad and have some space for in season signings due to injury.

No money to sign their departing UFAs.
No money to sign any new UFA free agents.
Hard to even RFA tag any of their folks.

Sure, it is easy to say "it is all funny money" as if pushing a ton of cap space into the future is easy for a lot of teams to do. It is not. Unlike when congress deficit spends, the bill comes due in the NFL.

Back of the napkin math says that there is about $620m in cap space to chase after among all teams combined in 2021 with the cap at $190m.

According to Spotrac, in 2021, the top paid 32 free agents counted a total of $452m against the 2020 salary cap.

So just the top 32 free agents account for 73% of the available 2021 free cap space if they all signed contracts the exact same as they had in 2020.

Had the salary cap gone as projected pre-COVID and been set at $210m for 2021, there would be an additional $640m in free cap space. COVID basically cut the free cap space in half for 2021.

Something has got to give.

My guess is that what is going to give are the player's contracts as free agents in 2021 and perhaps beyond.

I think good players are going to be signed to much smaller contracts than they hoped for. Lots and lots of "1 year prove it deals" even for good players as they hope the market improves in 2022.

A smaller cap is absolutely not something the players union wants.

[TheMugwump]

No matter what the cap is, $170 million or $190 million, the Colts still are one of the top three or four teams in terms of how much they have available, even after the Wentz deal, right?

Lazy minds want to know...

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by TheMugwump

No matter what the cap is, $170 million or $190 million, the Colts still are one of the top three or four teams in terms of how much they have available, even after the Wentz deal, right?

Lazy minds want to know...

Either way we are fine. But a lower cap means there will be more FA for us to pick from. I doubt we spend all our money. Just not Ballard’s style.

[Ironshaft]

Originally Posted by TheMugwump

No matter what the cap is, $170 million or $190 million, the Colts still are one of the top three or four teams in terms of how much they have available, even after the Wentz deal, right?

Lazy minds want to know...

After absorbing Wentz's cap hit, the Colts sit at #4 with $50m of usable cap space for free agents.

#1 = JAX = $77m free agent cap space
#2 = NYJ = $72m free agent cap space
#3 = NE = $65m free agent cap space

#5 = CIN = $42m free agent cap space

In fact, the only other 2020 playoff team in the top ten is WAS at #6 with $39m in free agent cap space.

Lots of free agents....not lots of cap space they will be chasing.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Its all funny money. You shift money forward, call it bonuses, bullshit highway robbery bonus, but the players ring money out of the owners and gain years on the contracts that are not guaranteed but they have more security, cutting them gets expensive

Plus, while I can only guess, the NFLPA loves fucking the owners when they can. Ive been on the players end as an employee and making the bosses squirm when they get over their head feels good

Jaff, you must be drinking some damn good liquor. A lower cap hurts players, it doesn't help them.