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This person asserts that Eason could be the Colts' starting QB in 2021.



Why Jacob Eason Could Be Next in Line to Take Over Colts’ Starting QB Job

(By Jerry Trotta)

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[Racehorse]

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This person asserts that Eason could be the Colts' starting QB in 2021.



Why Jacob Eason Could Be Next in Line to Take Over Colts’ Starting QB Job

(By Jerry Trotta)

https://horseshoeheroes.com/2021/01/...g-quarterback/

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I read that one earlier. I see it as he is saying that he would have the edge over a newly signed player because of familiarity with the playbook. This is based on no other QB under contract at the moment.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

What I was saying is Mac Jones is shorter, slow and doesn’t have a big arm. I do like Jones other intangibles, but he does not fit the profile I think Reich prefers. Trey Lance seems to possess the traits Reich covets; athletic, big arm, tall.

Mac Jones is 6'3" to Trey Lance's 6'4", not exactly a huge difference, and I thought 6'3" was considered prototypical height for the position, or at least in the range. Also, when watching Mac Jones on tape, what makes you think he's not athletic? The things that make me think he is are watching him extend plays when the pocket collapses, escape sacks and find his way to open field, and outrunning oncoming pass rushers. He wouldn't be able to do those things were he slow. Also, "slow" doesn't necessarily mean unathletic at the QB position. I don't think anyone in the NFL would say Patrick Mahomes is unathletic, but his 40 time was 4.8, and he's considered one of the biggest running threat QBs in the NFL. I'll grant you he doesn't have a big arm, but he has what is IMO the most important arm trait for a QB, which is accuracy. I'll reiterate here that I hope Mac Jones is available at 21 and I hope the Colts pick him if he is.

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This person asserts that Eason could be the Colts' starting QB in 2021.



Why Jacob Eason Could Be Next in Line to Take Over Colts’ Starting QB Job

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It would be interesting if he were, and an amazing story if he were to succeed, but I don't think either Ballard or Reich are going to bet their jobs on him basically sight unseen. If he gets forced into action and excels, that's different, but they didn't draft him in such a way that they were putting their jobs on the line in doing so.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Mac Jones is 6'3" to Trey Lance's 6'4", not exactly a huge difference, and I thought 6'3" was considered prototypical height for the position, or at least in the range. Also, when watching Mac Jones on tape, what makes you think he's not athletic? The things that make me think he is are watching him extend plays when the pocket collapses, escape sacks and find his way to open field, and outrunning oncoming pass rushers. He wouldn't be able to do those things were he slow. Also, "slow" doesn't necessarily mean unathletic at the QB position. I don't think anyone in the NFL would say Patrick Mahomes is unathletic, but his 40 time was 4.8, and he's considered one of the biggest running threat QBs in the NFL. I'll grant you he doesn't have a big arm, but he has what is IMO the most important arm trait for a QB, which is accuracy. I'll reiterate here that I hope Mac Jones is available at 21 and I hope the Colts pick him if he is.

It would be interesting if he were, and an amazing story if he were to succeed, but I don't think either Ballard or Reich are going to bet their jobs on him basically sight unseen. If he gets forced into action and excels, that's different, but they didn't draft him in such a way that they were putting their jobs on the line in doing so.

You start to quibble those inches but they do matter. He isn’t Drew Brees short but he might get more balls knocked down than others. Although arm length and extension on throws matter also. He does throw with good anticipation so he can put some air under his throws. Plops them down into the wr basket over the CB.

I think his feet seem heavy, he navigates the pocket well. But he will stay in the pocket. I don’t see him bootlegging much or leaving the pocket to throw like a Allen. Mahomes has slow 40 speed but I think he is a better athlete and has the arm to throw accurately on the run. A quicker twitch. Even Drew Brees has juked a guy here and there. But I don’t see that quick twich reflexes in Jones. He diagnoses and gets rid of the ball very fast when under duress. I think that is his strength.

Incidentally, Ballard has said he likes this QB class.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

You start to quibble those inches but they do matter.

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[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Butter

You sound like my wife.

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[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

You start to quibble those inches but they do matter. He isn’t Drew Brees short but he might get more balls knocked down than others. Although arm length and extension on throws matter also. He does throw with good anticipation so he can put some air under his throws. Plops them down into the wr basket over the CB.

I think his feet seem heavy, he navigates the pocket well. But he will stay in the pocket. I don’t see him bootlegging much or leaving the pocket to throw like a Allen. Mahomes has slow 40 speed but I think he is a better athlete and has the arm to throw accurately on the run. A quicker twitch. Even Drew Brees has juked a guy here and there. But I don’t see that quick twich reflexes in Jones. He diagnoses and gets rid of the ball very fast when under duress. I think that is his strength.

Incidentally, Ballard has said he likes this QB class.

You're splitting hairs with the height thing. This prompted me to go look it up again, and everything I could find said 6'3"-6'5" is ideal QB height, fwiw. Also, I don't know what film you're watching, but you make Mac Jones sound like Drew Bledsoe when he's not. I think there may be some situations where you're dinging his athleticism because he made the smart decision rather than the athletic one. One example of that came against Ohio State where he started to take off to run for a first down, but instead stopped and flipped a short pass to Jaylen Waddle for a first down. Could he have run for that first down himself? Possibly, but even were he a DeShaun Watson level of athlete at the QB position, he's not the athlete that Jaylen Waddle is, and Waddle outrunning the LB is a much surer bet.

Where we certainly agree is his ability to throw accurately with anticipation and place balls where only his receiver can catch them. Any tape of Mac Jones you put on will have at least 5 throws where Jones releases the football at the exact moment the DB turns to run with the WR, and most of them will go for a big play. Perhaps my favorite throw of his all year had this in spades and looked like something an NFL veteran would do. Again, it was against Ohio State, Alabama had the ball at about the 40 yard line and Ohio State lined up in an obvious Cover 3 shell. Devonta Smith lined up in the slot and ran a deep cross from the left hash to the right corner of the endzone. At the snap, Jones immediately turns his head left, which draws the single high safety who was shading to the offense's right hash to drift to the left, which left Tuf Borland, a LB, on an island against Devonta Smith. The instant Jones looks to Smith he sees the matchup he wants and throws a rainbow to Smith in stride for an easy 6 untouched, ball travels 35-40 air yards. I'll grant you that Devonta Smith is a special player, but I love that play so much for Mac Jones because it's how you win in the NFL. A QB that can manipulate a defense with his eyes to create a 1 on 1 matchup between a LB and a slot WR in the NFL is elite, and creating matchups like LB covering slot WR is how offenses win on Sundays.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

You're splitting hairs with the height thing. This prompted me to go look it up again, and everything I could find said 6'3"-6'5" is ideal QB height, fwiw. Also, I don't know what film you're watching, but you make Mac Jones sound like Drew Bledsoe when he's not. I think there may be some situations where you're dinging his athleticism because he made the smart decision rather than the athletic one. One example of that came against Ohio State where he started to take off to run for a first down, but instead stopped and flipped a short pass to Jaylen Waddle for a first down. Could he have run for that first down himself? Possibly, but even were he a DeShaun Watson level of athlete at the QB position, he's not the athlete that Jaylen Waddle is, and Waddle outrunning the LB is a much surer bet.

Where we certainly agree is his ability to throw accurately with anticipation and place balls where only his receiver can catch them. Any tape of Mac Jones you put on will have at least 5 throws where Jones releases the football at the exact moment the DB turns to run with the WR, and most of them will go for a big play. Perhaps my favorite throw of his all year had this in spades and looked like something an NFL veteran would do. Again, it was against Ohio State, Alabama had the ball at about the 40 yard line and Ohio State lined up in an obvious Cover 3 shell. Devonta Smith lined up in the slot and ran a deep cross from the left hash to the right corner of the endzone. At the snap, Jones immediately turns his head left, which draws the single high safety who was shading to the offense's right hash to drift to the left, which left Tuf Borland, a LB, on an island against Devonta Smith. The instant Jones looks to Smith he sees the matchup he wants and throws a rainbow to Smith in stride for an easy 6 untouched, ball travels 35-40 air yards. I'll grant you that Devonta Smith is a special player, but I love that play so much for Mac Jones because it's how you win in the NFL. A QB that can manipulate a defense with his eyes to create a 1 on 1 matchup between a LB and a slot WR in the NFL is elite, and creating matchups like LB covering slot WR is how offenses win on Sundays.

He’s not a dual threat QB dude. He is a pocket passing QB. Can he scramble for a first down? Sure. If he going to scare a team with his legs? No. And I said he was shorter than Reich seems to like. Not that he was too short for the position. Don’t need 20 posts back and forth about it. If you want to see his actual athletiscm we can wait for the combine or his pro day. He looks lead footed to me. Occasional bootleg, but he won’t break a defense down with his legs. He really tries to stay in the pocket. And I don’t see him buying a lot of throw time with his legs by leaving it.

His quick decision making, accuracy, and ability to hit his guys in stride is what I do like. If you protect him I think he can pick apart a D. I think his floor is a solid backup QB. He does run RPOs well which I think Reich will take notice of. I think he might be a safer bet than Justin Fields who has great ability but also takes way to long to throw at times.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

He’s not a dual threat QB dude. He is a pocket passing QB. Can he scramble for a first down? Sure. If he going to scare a team with his legs? No. And I said he was shorter than Reich seems to like. Not that he was too short for the position. Don’t need 20 posts back and forth about it. If you want to see his actual athletiscm we can wait for the combine or his pro day. He looks lead footed to me. Occasional bootleg, but he won’t break a defense down with his legs. He really tries to stay in the pocket. And I don’t see him buying a lot of throw time with his legs by leaving it.

His quick decision making, accuracy, and ability to hit his guys in stride is what I do like. If you protect him I think he can pick apart a D. I think his floor is a solid backup QB. He does run RPOs well which I think Reich will take notice of. I think he might be a safer bet than Justin Fields who has great ability but also takes way to long to throw at times.

He doesn't have to be Lamar Jackson to be a good NFL QB, and I never said he was a threat to run the ball every down. Your assessment made him sound like Drew Bledsoe, but in this post, I can see we're actually pretty close to agreement on his athleticism for the position, except that you want to call him "lead footed" for some reason. I don't think anyone would say Russell Wilson isn't athletic, but if you look at his Wisconsin tape or his early NFL tape and compare it to Mac Jones vs. Georgia, for example, you'll see similarities in the ways they use their legs. Primarily you'll see both use them to escape pressure, keep their eyes downfield, and use their elite passing traits to push the ball downfield. You'll also see an occasional RPO, as you said, which keeps the defense off balance and forces them to account for the QB, which puts further stress on the defense.

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Why Jacob Eason Could Be Next in Line to Take Over Colts’ Starting QB Job

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https://horseshoeheroes.com/2021/01/...g-quarterback/

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That person is stupid.