Colts QB Options

[Mr. Session]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

If Brissett doesn’t cut it, I fear we’re screwed for quite awhile. Ballard has built a roster good enough to keep us from sniffing a top qb prospect in the draft without giving up a boatload of assets.

It’s amazing how much gloomier this franchises future is than it was Saturday afternoon.

Perhaps it’s time to get away from the belief a franchise quarterback is necessary.

Other than Brady, which franchise QB’s have multiple rings?

Manning had 2 (only one with Indianapolis), Rodgers has 1, Brees has 1, Rivers has 0, etc.

How many teams like the Ravens (2), Steelers (2), Giants (2), Buccaneers, Eagles, etc. have done it with other pieces and a quarterback who just didn’t lose the game?

Maybe this changes the perspective.

[Chromeburn]

Kap keeps coming up. I will say this about Kap, ignoring the politics stuff which I don't care about, a guy can support whatever cause he wants.

• Kap has not played in years
• Kap was not that great to begin with. Early on he was pretty good then deteriorated.
• Him coming in would be the same as Jacoby arriving in 2017. He would have to learn the system on the fly. That is a recipe for disaster.
• I don't think he is a superior player to Jacoby.

[HoosierinFL]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Kap keeps coming up. I will say this about Kap, ignoring the politics stuff which I don't care about, a guy can support whatever cause he wants.

• Kap has not played in years
• Kap was not that great to begin with. Early on he was pretty good then deteriorated.
• Him coming in would be the same as Jacoby arriving in 2017. He would have to learn the system on the fly. That is a recipe for disaster.
• I don't think he is a superior player to Jacoby.

Kap was pretty good running the pistol offense, which was a gimmick that worked for a season or 2. That's it. This offense needs a patient pocket passer who can read defenses pre-snap.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

Kap was pretty good running the pistol offense, which was a gimmick that worked for a season or 2. That's it. This offense needs a patient pocket passer who can read defenses pre-snap.

Once they started to figure him out he struggled. Plus he doesn't have great accuracy and that is something you need in this offense.

[Pez]

Originally Posted by Mr. Session

Perhaps it’s time to get away from the belief a franchise quarterback is necessary.

Other than Brady, which franchise QB’s have multiple rings?

Manning had 2 (only one with Indianapolis), Rodgers has 1, Brees has 1, Rivers has 0, etc.

How many teams like the Ravens (2), Steelers (2), Giants (2), Buccaneers, Eagles, etc. have done it with other pieces and a quarterback who just didn’t lose the game?

Maybe this changes the perspective.

I like this way of thinking. Joe Flacco won 8 playoff games between 2008 and 2014, including the Super Bowl MVP in 2012, where we was throwing to the likes of Anquan Boldin and Dennis Pitta.

[ChoppedWood]

I think the whole "I just decided" thing, is complete horseshit!

The silver lining in that- I think Ballard and Reich already had the transition in motion in advance of this.

Think about this, how fortunate are we that our "back-up" has basically consumed all the start snaps since March? You couldn't ask for a better prepared backup thrust into starter scenario than what we have.

I liked Brisset in the throw away season, I am amped to see what he looks like with some real dudes surrounding him and I am not calling it, but I would not be shocked at all if at mid-season the talking heads are revving the "The Colts are the scariest team in football for the next 5 years engine"...AND I think we may have one of the best backups in the league behind him.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

I think the whole "I just decided" thing, is complete horseshit!

The silver lining in that- I think Ballard and Reich already had the transition in motion in advance of this.

Think about this, how fortunate are we that our "back-up" has basically consumed all the start snaps since March? You couldn't ask for a better prepared backup thrust into starter scenario than what we have.

I liked Brisset in the throw away season, I am amped to see what he looks like with some real dudes surrounding him and I am not calling it, but I would not be shocked at all if at mid-season the talking heads are revving the "The Colts are the scariest team in football for the next 5 years engine"...AND I think we may have one of the best backups in the league behind him.

I hope you’re right about Jacoby and I’ll be rooting my ass off for it to happen, but I just don’t see it.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Mr. Session

How many teams like the Ravens (2), Steelers (2), Giants (2), Buccaneers, Eagles, etc. have done it with other pieces and a quarterback who just didn’t lose the game?

Maybe this changes the perspective.

I would not include the Steelers in that list, ROthlesberger is clearly a Franchise Qb.

[Mr. Session]

Originally Posted by Butter

I would not include the Steelers in that list, ROthlesberger is clearly a Franchise Qb.

IMO those Steeler defenses were what made those Super Bowl teams.

Roethlisberger didn’t get on the level of Brady, Brees, Manning, etc. until Pittsburgh started focusing on their offense.

The Steelers of the last three years are not very similar to the Steelers that won Super Bowls with Roesthlisberger.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Mr. Session

Perhaps it’s time to get away from the belief a franchise quarterback is necessary.

Other than Brady, which franchise QB’s have multiple rings?

Manning had 2 (only one with Indianapolis), Rodgers has 1, Brees has 1, Rivers has 0, etc.

How many teams like the Ravens (2), Steelers (2), Giants (2), Buccaneers, Eagles, etc. have done it with other pieces and a quarterback who just didn’t lose the game?

Maybe this changes the perspective.

It makes things easier. You need a lot more pieces in place if you don't have one. A franchise QB gives you a window to play in for awhile. I think those guys would have more if not for the Patriots. Ultimately it is the Patriots defense and Bb keeping those guys from winning SB's, not Tom Brady.