2019 Draft - Edge Rushers

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Yeah, I don't know what you are talking about.

Nelson was the big fucking dog in this draft and he was a PRO BOWL player out the gate. How did all the guys above him do? Nelson was all pro as a lineman, the toughest, most intellegent position in the game. And he will only get better.

And while people will say QB is harder, try sittin in a three point stance, LISTENING to audibles and then HOLDING your position until the snap and ajusting your attack depending on the change, and knocking the crap out of the guy in front of you.

This guy could be one of the BEST. He's smart (Notre Damn), atheletic, and his DRIVEN. He likes to beat the piss out of guys in a legal way and not go to jail.

That 6th round pick will look like chump change in the future.

According to the guys on NFL radio, wideout is the second hardest position to learn next to QB today. Primarily because of all the audibling and being on the same page with the QB. I like Nelson and oline are usually some of the smartest guys on the team, but guard is more dependant on physical traits and fundamentals than mental processing.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

According to the guys on NFL radio, wideout is the second hardest position to learn next to QB today. Primarily because of all the audibling and being on the same page with the QB. I like Nelson and oline are usually some of the smartest guys on the team, but guard is more dependant on physical traits and fundamentals than mental processing.

No, not buying that. The O linemen, need to know how to change their attack if the QB audible to a pass from run or run to pass. They need to know what to do if they change direction.

WR can be dumb as a post, they just need to be fast and catch the ball. Great ones are smart and can catch. We were lucky to have 2 at the same time with Reggie and Marvin

Jeff Saturday didn't make the league because he was physical like Nelson. He was smart like Peyton.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by JAFF

No, not buying that. The O linemen, need to know how to change their attack if the QB audible to a pass from run or run to pass. They need to know what to do if they change direction.

WR can be dumb as a post, they just need to be fast and catch the ball. Great ones are smart and can catch. We were lucky to have 2 at the same time with Reggie and Marvin

Jeff Saturday didn't make the league because he was physical like Nelson. He was smart like Peyton.

No offense, I'll take the word of the guys on 'moving the chains' who is hosted by a former coach/scout (Pat Kirwin) and a former QB (Jim Miller) who interact with players, coaches, and GM's on a daily basis.

The oline is right next to the QB and they also have the center who passes down the audible. I'm not saying it's easy, but it is less than what the WR's have to deal with and they can more easily support one another.

The WR's are on an island. Also it is not just audibles now. They are expected to read coverage and adjust routes accordingly in sync with the QB. If there is a blitz, they are expected to read that and adjust to a hot route. They need to know whatever hand signals and keywords the QB barks out. These change at least every few weeks. Linemen can't see what the QB is doing, just hear. If you are a dumb WR and can only run the route that was called or have a limited route tree, CB's will pick up on that and dominate. You can probably get away with being dumb as a WR in high school and college, but not the NFL anymore. At least not football dumb.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by JAFF

No, not buying that. The O linemen, need to know how to change their attack if the QB audible to a pass from run or run to pass. They need to know what to do if they change direction.

WR can be dumb as a post, they just need to be fast and catch the ball. Great ones are smart and can catch. We were lucky to have 2 at the same time with Reggie and Marvin

Jeff Saturday didn't make the league because he was physical like Nelson. He was smart like Peyton.

If a WR can't run routes and doesn't know how to read defenses to be able to make the correct break on an option route, he'll wash out of the league faster than you can say "fly". There are less things an OL has to learn than a WR to make it in the NFL. Pull, trap, zone, man, that's pretty much it for an OL. It's way less than option routes, move combinations, and the route tree, each of which WRs have to know, and each of which has at least as much information as the whole set of things an OL needs to know.

[JAFF]

Football IQ by position
According to Paul Zimmerman's The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football, the average score of a NFL player according to position is the following:
Offensive tackle – 26.
Center – 25.
Quarterback – 24.
Guard – 23.
Tight end – 22.
Safety – 19.
Linebacker – 19.
Cornerback – 18.

http://www.bestmastersdegrees.com/smartest-players/

- Offensive tackle: 26
- Center: 25
- Quarterback: 24 (a quarterback's intelligence may affect his passing performance in the NFL even if it does not in college) Guard:
- Tight end: 22
- Safety: 19
- Linebacker: 19
- Corner back: 18
- Wide receiver: 17
- Fullback: 17
- Halfback: 16
- FACTOID: While an average football player usually scores around 20 points, The Wonderlic, Inc claims a score of 10 points suggests a person is literate.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Football IQ by position
According to Paul Zimmerman's The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football, the average score of a NFL player according to position is the following:
Offensive tackle – 26.
Center – 25.
Quarterback – 24.
Guard – 23.
Tight end – 22.
Safety – 19.
Linebacker – 19.
Cornerback – 18.

http://www.bestmastersdegrees.com/smartest-players/

- Offensive tackle: 26
- Center: 25
- Quarterback: 24 (a quarterback's intelligence may affect his passing performance in the NFL even if it does not in college) Guard:
- Tight end: 22
- Safety: 19
- Linebacker: 19
- Corner back: 18
- Wide receiver: 17
- Fullback: 17
- Halfback: 16
- FACTOID: While an average football player usually scores around 20 points, The Wonderlic, Inc claims a score of 10 points suggests a person is literate.

No one is saying oline are dumb. We are talking about what the position requires of them.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Football IQ by position
According to Paul Zimmerman's The New Thinking Man's Guide to Pro Football, the average score of a NFL player according to position is the following:
Offensive tackle – 26.
Center – 25.
Quarterback – 24.
Guard – 23.
Tight end – 22.
Safety – 19.
Linebacker – 19.
Cornerback – 18.

http://www.bestmastersdegrees.com/smartest-players/

- Offensive tackle: 26
- Center: 25
- Quarterback: 24 (a quarterback's intelligence may affect his passing performance in the NFL even if it does not in college) Guard:
- Tight end: 22
- Safety: 19
- Linebacker: 19
- Corner back: 18
- Wide receiver: 17
- Fullback: 17
- Halfback: 16
- FACTOID: While an average football player usually scores around 20 points, The Wonderlic, Inc claims a score of 10 points suggests a person is literate.

Let's not get started on the ineffectiveness of standardized testing, or the inherent biases contained within.

This also has nothing to do with what is required of each position.