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Old 01-15-2019, 08:10 PM
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Because when you don't value that position highly, you end up with Curtis Painter filling the role.
Which is the difference between the 1st pick in the draft (the Painter/Orlovsky season) and the 4th pick in the draft (the Brissett season).

If Luck is ever out for a long time, Colts are boned. At that point, you may as well embrace your draft position.
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Old 01-15-2019, 08:13 PM
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Which is the difference between the 1st pick in the draft (the Painter/Orlovsky season) and the 4th pick in the draft (the Brissett season).

If Luck is ever out for a long time, Colts are boned. At that point, you may as well embrace your draft position.
I don't think anyone believes otherwise

On the other hand, back up that can come in for 3-4 games and win 1-2 instead of going 0-4, a stopgap to keep a team in contention until the starter comes back, can make or break a season in this league.
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:52 PM
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I don't think anyone believes otherwise

On the other hand, back up that can come in for 3-4 games and win 1-2 instead of going 0-4, a stopgap to keep a team in contention until the starter comes back, can make or break a season in this league.
I just don't think you keep a 2nd round value (IF a team makes that trade) in your pocket -- given it has an expiration date -- on the chance you may have to play that card. The chances your 2nd round pick impacts your franchise long-term >>>> the chances that QB is ever called upon to keep your season alive and does so.

If Brissett walks, highest Colts would get would be an end-of-3rd comp pick. Ballard might play for that (and I doubt it would even be that high), but give me the 2nd round pick if anyone comes calling.
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I just don't think you keep a 2nd round value (IF a team makes that trade) in your pocket -- given it has an expiration date -- on the chance you may have to play that card. The chances your 2nd round pick impacts your franchise long-term >>>> the chances that QB is ever called upon to keep your season alive and does so.

If Brissett walks, highest Colts would get would be an end-of-3rd comp pick. Ballard might play for that (and I doubt it would even be that high), but give me the 2nd round pick if anyone comes calling.
If someone offered a second for Brissett, I agree, you make that trade. Especially given the position the Colts are in where I still feel like there are multiple areas of need for the team.

If the team was otherwise set and you are just looking for the one or two players to put you over the top, you would keep Brissett no matter what. he is nice insurance to have and I think is a solid back up. Reich with him could manage if needed for a short period

But with where the team is and what ballard is doing and wants to do, you trade him if the right deal comes along.
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This is the way... Pat's and Steelers haven't given a shit who they have kept as their backup in the last 15-20 years.
The Pats have absolutely given a shit who they kept. BB wanted to franchise Garopolo while Brady was under contract. They also had Cassel for a long time, which allowed them to go 11-5 without Brady.
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The Pats have absolutely given a shit who they kept. BB wanted to franchise Garopolo while Brady was under contract. They also had Cassel for a long time, which allowed them to go 11-5 without Brady.
Hell, they were the ones that drafted Jacoby Brissett (with a 3rd rounder) as well.

And the Steelers drafted Landry Jones in the 4th round in 2013, Josh Dobbs in the 4th round in 2017, and Mason Rudolph in the 3rd round in 2018.

Not sure what the hell NL4C is talking about here.
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and its rumored that the reason BB traded brissett was because he's mad at kraft for being up brady's ass constantly.
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I don't think anyone believes otherwise

On the other hand, back up that can come in for 3-4 games and win 1-2 instead of going 0-4, a stopgap to keep a team in contention until the starter comes back, can make or break a season in this league.
Build a better team. Pats and Steelers do it. Make a good game plan
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Build a better team. Pats and Steelers do it. Make a good game plan
This is the way... Pat's and Steelers haven't given a shit who they have kept as their backup in the last 15-20 years.
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Which is the difference between the 1st pick in the draft (the Painter/Orlovsky season) and the 4th pick in the draft (the Brissett season).
It is even closer - the Colts had the 3rd pick in the draft before trading down with the Jets.


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On the other hand, back up that can come in for 3-4 games and win 1-2 instead of going 0-4, a stopgap to keep a team in contention until the starter comes back, can make or break a season in this league.
+1; there is so much parity in the league, one or two extra wins can be huge
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