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Colts And Orioles
11-20-2022, 05:48 PM
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Right now, we're all upset because of numerous missed opportunities in today's heart-breaking loss to the Eagles.


1) l McLaughlin's missed 50-yard field goal attempt, which sailed just a bit wide to the right.


2) l The Colts' failure to essentially end the game when they had to settle for a field goal instead of a touchdown when they had the ball 1st-and-goal from the Eagles' 5 yardline late in the 4th quarter.



However, just 2 weeks ago ......


1) l The Eagles were undefeated at 8-0, and some were even wondering if they had a shot to equal the Miami Dolphins' undefeated 1972 season.


2) l The Colts had just gotten absolutely steam-rolled by the Patriots, looking even worse than they did in their 24-0 shutout loss to the Jaguars in Week 2.



So ..... 5 minutes after that absolute disaster against the Patriots, coupled with the fact that the Eagles had a record of 8-0 at the time, most people probably would have suggested that you were living in some sort of alternate universe if you had predicted that the Colts would be leading the Eagles by a score of 13-3 at the start of the 4th quarter, and that the Eagles would need a late rally to barely pull one out of the fire for a thrilling, nail-biting 17-16 win.


Subsequently, I'm not so certain that a complete explanation of the Colts' current situation is that they simply got a temporary shot of adrenaline from their new head in their win over a below-average Raiders team last week ...... before today's game, many Colts fans were stating that even a close loss to the Eagles would be a good sign for the team going forward, if not necessarily this season then in 2023 and beyond. In fact, this was the second consecutive solid game for the offensive line, in a season in which good games from them have been rare (they've only had 3 solid games overall.)


Any loss sucks, whether it's a manhandling by the Patriots or a heart-breaker against the Eagles ...... but I wouldn't necessarily paint today's failure to secure the win when they had several chances to do so with the same broad brush that had the Colts looking like one of the worst teams in the NFL only 2 weeks ago.

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Hoopsdoc
11-20-2022, 05:59 PM
Under four yards a carry on the ground and 4 sacks allowed. In no reality was that a “solid game” for the offensive line.

Omaha said it best, it’s slightly better without Pryor but it’s still really bad.

It’s the story of the entire season.

bigalbert
11-20-2022, 06:04 PM
JT going back to his Badger days with his fumblelitus
Matt Ryan is Mr Indecisive
The oline is f’ing terrible


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Colts And Orioles
11-20-2022, 06:25 PM
Under four yards a carry on the ground and 4 sacks allowed. In no reality was that a “solid game” for the offensive line.

Omaha said it best, it’s slightly better without Pryor but it’s still really bad.

It’s the story of the entire season.





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One of the sacks was Ryan taking one intentionally on 3rd down and goal to keep the clock running, instead of throwing an incomplete pass ...... the Colts were in chip-shot field goal range either way, so Ryan did the right thing back sitting down in-bounds to make the Eagles use one of their time-outs instead of throwing it out of bounds and stopping the clock.

Also, of the other 3 sacks, at least 2 of them were coverage sacks, not necessarily the fault of the offensive line. In fact, on none of the other 3 sacks did we see what we have been seeing most of the season, which is having defensive linemen/linebackers in the quarterback's face less than 2 seconds after the ball is snapped. Although, they were there pretty quick on the final sack (about 3 or 4 seconds after the ball was snapped) at the end of the game.


My eyes saw a solid game from them today, much closer to the 2 in which they had against the Jaguars in Week 6 and against the Raiders in Week 10 than the 8 awful ones that they had for most of the rest of this season.

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Oldcolt
11-20-2022, 06:49 PM
We were a crappy team 2 weeks ago and still are a crappy team. We are playing better now but that is faint praise. We are going nowhere with these qb's or this pass rush.

Racehorse
11-20-2022, 07:08 PM
I think Saturday has given the team life, and it will help with the team culture. That is what Frank had lost. If Saturday can keep their heads up, plugging in the right couple of players next year should be the key to getting back to contender status. I’m talking QB and pass rusher. The line can protect a mobile quarterback, if that quarterback also has the ability to make plays with his arm.

JAFF
11-20-2022, 07:21 PM
The Colts were competitive the entire game. I would prefer more aggressive play calling on offense. What is there to lose?

ChaosTheory
11-20-2022, 07:32 PM
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One of the sacks was Ryan taking one intentionally on 3rd down and goal to keep the clock running, instead of throwing an incomplete pass ...... the Colts were in chip-shot field goal range either way, so Ryan did the right thing back sitting down in-bounds to make the Eagles use one of their time-outs instead of throwing it out of bounds and stopping the clock.

Also, of the other 3 sacks, at least 2 of them were coverage sacks, not necessarily the fault of the offensive line. In fact, on none of the other 3 sacks did we see what we have been seeing most of the season, which is having defensive linemen/linebackers in the quarterback's face less than 2 seconds after the ball is snapped. Although, they were there pretty quick on the final sack (about 3 or 4 seconds after the ball was snapped) at the end of the game.


My eyes saw a solid game from them today, much closer to the 2 in which they had against the Jaguars in Week 6 and against the Raiders in Week 10 than the 8 awful ones that they had for most of the rest of this season.

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I think I understand what you're saying. Just watching the game, it didn't feel like Ryan was constantly in a collapsing pocket, constantly under duress, etc. Compared to earlier games like 1st JAX, KC, DEN... those games felt like every-single-play was a free runner straight up Ryan's ass.

It's an improvement over the catastrophe that it was, but still not good. And the run blocking is still not there. The Eagles were giving up around 145yds/gm their previous 5 games. After the first drive, I thought we'd top that easily. But we completely stalled out again.

Hoopsdoc
11-20-2022, 07:38 PM
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One of the sacks was Ryan taking one intentionally on 3rd down and goal to keep the clock running, instead of throwing an incomplete pass ...... the Colts were in chip-shot field goal range either way, so Ryan did the right thing back sitting down in-bounds to make the Eagles use one of their time-outs instead of throwing it out of bounds and stopping the clock.

Also, of the other 3 sacks, at least 2 of them were coverage sacks, not necessarily the fault of the offensive line. In fact, on none of the other 3 sacks did we see what we have been seeing most of the season, which is having defensive linemen/linebackers in the quarterback's face less than 2 seconds after the ball is snapped. Although, they were there pretty quick on the final sack (about 3 or 4 seconds after the ball was snapped) at the end of the game.


My eyes saw a solid game from them today, much closer to the 2 in which they had against the Jaguars in Week 6 and against the Raiders in Week 10 than the 8 awful ones that they had for most of the rest of this season.

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You saw what you wanted to see. I saw a line that’s marginally better since Pryor is out but still bad. Can’t run block or pass block.

Coupled with a noodle armed statue for a quarterback, it’s a disaster.

Puck
11-20-2022, 07:46 PM
You saw what you wanted to see. I saw a line that’s marginally better since Pryor is out but still bad. Can’t run block or pass block.

Coupled with a noodle armed statue for a quarterback, it’s a disaster.

The Eagles D is REALLY good 3rd ranked in the NFL

bigalbert
11-20-2022, 10:44 PM
The Eagles D is REALLY good 3rd ranked in the NFL


You’re a solid poster puck but stop making excuses, we should have won this dam game.


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Hoopsdoc
11-20-2022, 10:52 PM
The Eagles D is REALLY good 3rd ranked in the NFL

20th against the run and they shut the Colts down on their home field. Stop making excuses. The line is terrible.

apballin
11-20-2022, 11:08 PM
20th against the run and they shut the Colts down on their home field. Stop making excuses. The line is terrible.

Fuckin pussies, got punked by fat ass dudes fresh off the couch

Brylok
11-20-2022, 11:33 PM
We just aren't very good right now. Simple

JAFF
11-20-2022, 11:50 PM
The Colts lost to a good team by 1 point. An improvement over the NE game

JAFF
11-21-2022, 09:43 AM
Fuckin pussies, got punked by fat ass dudes fresh off the couch

Who sitting side by side are wider than my Chevy Colorado.

Hoopsdoc
11-21-2022, 10:21 AM
Good article from stampede Blue about how it doesn’t matter who they fire, the offensive line is not good enough to win in the NFL. It wasn’t Marcus Brady, it wasn’t Frank Reich. It was and still is the offensive line.

Also discouraging to see how bad Parks Fraziers play calling was yesterday. They ran the ball 80 percent of the time on first down for .75 yards per carry. That’s pathetic any way you look at it. And way to predictable in the NFL.

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2022/11/20/23469745/like-it-or-not-the-colts-problems-are-the-same-frank-reich-wasnt-the-problem

albany ed
11-21-2022, 10:41 AM
I think it was Casey Stengel who said this, but it applies to all sports "more games are lost than are won"

The Eagles were ripe for a loss. Plain and simple, they didn't play well and they still came out with a victory. Why? The Colts gave away that game. Saturday talks about accountability? I don't believe a single player on offense should be able to look in the mirror after that tired effort.

Pez
11-21-2022, 11:03 AM
Good article from stampede Blue about how it doesn’t matter who they fire, the offensive line is not good enough to win in the NFL. It wasn’t Marcus Brady, it wasn’t Frank Reich. It was and still is the offensive line.

Also discouraging to see how bad Parks Fraziers play calling was yesterday. They ran the ball 80 percent of the time on first down for .75 yards per carry. That’s pathetic any way you look at it. And way to predictable in the NFL.

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2022/11/20/23469745/like-it-or-not-the-colts-problems-are-the-same-frank-reich-wasnt-the-problem

I thought that was horrible as well, I thought they were setting up play action and eventually we might take a shot on first down... I never saw it tho.

I think we have some issues with Play design as well, these short passes into the flat for a 3-6 yard loss just don't make any sense at all. In some cases it would Be better if the WR just spiked the ball to the ground.

Colts And Orioles
11-21-2022, 12:46 PM
You’re a solid poster Puck, but stop making excuses ...... we should have won this damned game.






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I don't think that he was necessarily making excuses for the loss, I think that he was specifically pointing out that the Eagles' defense is among the best in the NFL overall this season.

That said, the Colts had a chance to end the game when they had a 1st-and-goal from the Eagles' 5 yardline, and they failed to deliver the knockout punch by not getting the ball into the end zone ...... the Eagles have a good defense, but they aren't the 1976 Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Colts And Orioles
11-21-2022, 12:50 PM
This is a good article from Stampede Blue about how it doesn’t matter who they fire, the offensive line is not good enough to win in the NFL. It wasn’t Marcus Brady, it wasn’t Frank Reich ...... it was and still is the offensive line.

Also discouraging to see how bad Parks Frazier's play calling was yesterday. They ran the ball 80 percent of the time on first down for .75 yards per carry. That’s pathetic any way you look at it. And way to predictable in the NFL.


https://www.stampedeblue.com/2022/11/20/23469745/like-it-or-not-the-colts-problems-are-the-same-frank-reich-wasnt-the-problem




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Spot on.

Last year, the offensive line was among the best in the NFL.

This year, the offensive line was the worst in the NFL up until 2 weeks ago ...... and even after the last 2 games, they are still far below average overall in the 11 total games in which they have played.

We disagreed about their performance in yesterday's game, but we are in complete agreement that they have been atrocious overall for the entire season.



I have said on numerous occasions that whenever you start any football team, you always start with the offensive line, because without the offensive line you have nothing.




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Speaking of the offensive line, when I was in 6th grade during the War of 1812, Mr. Martino asked the class ...... "Which part of the team do you start with when you are building a new squad ???"


He said that you don't start with the quarterback ...... you don't start with the special teams ..... you don't start with the running backs ...... you don't start with the pass-rushers ...... you start with the offensive line, because without the offensive line, you have nothing.



I still believe that to be true ...... and if that is indeed true, it's a minor miracle that the Colts have a record of 3-3-1 with an offensive line that has had a grand total of 1 good game.

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Puck
11-21-2022, 04:03 PM
I didn't say we shouldn't have won the game. The penalties, fumble and missed kick were the difference.

I was pointing out that the Philly D is very good. And I think they are even better now with the 2 new additions. So not running the ball well against them should not be a cause for alarm.

apballin
11-21-2022, 09:05 PM
Who sitting side by side are wider than my Chevy Colorado.

Doesn’t matter they haven’t been playing

we’re trying to copy cat the Titans but not pounding the ball effectively enough

Matt Ryan is toast he should not attempt more than 25 passes especially if we have a lead

CanuckColt
11-22-2022, 10:40 AM
17-16 losses twice when we had the lead...season killers.