quick thoughts on the terrible titans game

[omahacolt]

1) wentz isn't the guy. he isn't the worst guy. but we will go nowhere with him. holds the ball. misses guys (had to hit pittman in endzone). sees ghosts out there. he isn't a real leader. he is a ginger. he just isn't it

2) the running backs are good. we knew that. hines is a weapon and a great compliment to taylor. we need to keep getting these guys in space.

3) fisher was bad today. he isn't a great tackle to begin with. we need better than that.

4) the coaches don't know what they are doing. why did eason make the team? this whole eason/hundley debacle just proves they havent a clue what they are doing. not to mention the odd rotating tackles. makes them look incompetent. get ehlinger healthy and cut eason.

5) zach pascal is our 1. that is just disgusting. pittman is good. campbell is a nobody. can hilton still play? who knows

6) our tight ends are just guys.

7) all these lower leg injuries aren't a coincidence. this is an issue

8) ballards huge failure with his 2nd round picks is very telling. Lewis does nothing. banogu and turay arent good. too many picks just not producing. we have no pass rush other than buckner.

9) okereke has regressed. leonard should have probably been traded.

10) if it weren't for blackmon, henry goes for 300 today. good on him.

11) even our good players (moore) arent playing consistent. nelson goes out and nobody notices. i think this team lacks true leaders. wentz and leonard aren't leaders. needs to be more accountability.

12) we don't do anything well. our defense is trash. we can barely move the ball down the field. zero threat of going deep. its just a mess.

13) what positives are there? the state of this team is just not good and that isn't acceptable. we have been saving money for what? to pay a fucking guard? there is nothing to hang our hat on as a team. not coaching, players, or scheme

14) untouched td to a rb in the flat? come the fuck on leonard. come the fuck on.

15) i fear this trade for wentz will set the team back years.

16) i will try and get more game specific as the week goes on hopefully. this game and this season has really been telling to me as where we are as a franchise. its not good.

[Colts And Orioles]

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I think that if Wentz were healthy, we probably would have won the game today ..... and if the dog had not stopped to take a piss, he would have caught the rabbit.

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[Luck4Reich]

1) wentz isn't the guy. he isn't the worst guy. but we will go nowhere with him. holds the ball. misses guys (had to hit pittman in endzone). sees ghosts out there. he isn't a real leader. he is a ginger. he just isn't it

2) the running backs are good. we knew that. hines is a weapon and a great compliment to taylor. we need to keep getting these guys in space.

3) fisher was bad today. he isn't a great tackle to begin with. we need better than that.

4) the coaches don't know what they are doing. why did eason make the team? this whole eason/hundley debacle just proves they havent a clue what they are doing. not to mention the odd rotating tackles. makes them look incompetent. get ehlinger healthy and cut eason.

5) zach pascal is our 1. that is just disgusting. pittman is good. campbell is a nobody. can hilton still play? who knows

6) our tight ends are just guys.

7) all these lower leg injuries aren't a coincidence. this is an issue

8) ballards huge failure with his 2nd round picks is very telling. Lewis does nothing. banogu and turay arent good. too many picks just not producing. we have no pass rush other than buckner.

9) okereke has regressed. leonard should have probably been traded.

10) if it weren't for blackmon, henry goes for 300 today. good on him.

11) even our good players (moore) arent playing consistent. nelson goes out and nobody notices. i think this team lacks true leaders. wentz and leonard aren't leaders. needs to be more accountability.

12) we don't do anything well. our defense is trash. we can barely move the ball down the field. zero threat of going deep. its just a mess.

13) what positives are there? the state of this team is just not good and that isn't acceptable. we have been saving money for what? to pay a fucking guard? there is nothing to hang our hat on as a team. not coaching, players, or scheme

14) untouched td to a rb in the flat? come the fuck on leonard. come the fuck on.

15) i fear this trade for wentz will set the team back years.

16) i will try and get more game specific as the week goes on hopefully. this game and this season has really been telling to me as where we are as a franchise. its not good.

Spot on with everything. and I was thinking the same thing #15 earlier.

[Hoopsdoc]

I think you’re being a little dramatic.

Wentz has had like 5 practices since JOINING THE DAMN TEAM and was playing hurt on top of that and you’re done with him already? Come on, Omaha. I thought you were smarter than that.

I’m not convinced at all the Wentz is the answer but he’s what we have. And he’s not been that bad, all things considered.

If things don’t get any better, I’m not sure we shouldn’t try and salvage that first round pick AND try and get Wentz healthy, but I’m not at all convinced that we can’t win with him.

The single worst decision made today was Reich giving Taylor 10 freaking carries in a game that was close all the way. That’s inexcusable.

[Luck4Reich]

The single worst decision made today was Reich giving Taylor 10 freaking carries in a game that was close all the way. That’s inexcusable.

Yep that really pissed me off

[Racehorse]

I think you’re being a little dramatic.

Wentz has had like 5 practices since JOINING THE DAMN TEAM and was playing hurt on top of that and you’re done with him already? Come on, Omaha. I thought you were smarter than that.

I’m not convinced at all the Wentz is the answer but he’s what we have. And he’s not been that bad, all things considered.

If things don’t get any better, I’m not sure we shouldn’t try and salvage that first round pick AND try and get Wentz healthy, but I’m not at all convinced that we can’t win with him.

The single worst decision made today was Reich giving Taylor 10 freaking carries in a game that was close all the way. That’s inexcusable.

Omaha is drunk, and gets emotional when drunk. As for him being smart... well, he likes Keystone Light.

As to your point about Taylor, it has a bunch of people scratching their heads. The dude is one of our three offensive playmakers, but when he does well, we go away from him. I wish Tennessee was that stupid when it comes to Henry.

[albany ed]

I do believe if Wentz were healthy, we might have won that game. He had no lateral movement to buy more time in the pocket or roll out. A healthy Wentz could have done that. He shouldn't have played. Colts can lose without him just as easily as they did with him. My biggest fear, the team loses 12 games this year but Wentz takes more than 70% of the snaps and we give up a #1. If he's not able to move well, then don't start him.

[Hoopsdoc]

Omaha is drunk, and gets emotional when drunk. As for him being smart... well, he likes Keystone Light.

As to your point about Taylor, it has a bunch of people scratching their heads. The dude is one of our three offensive playmakers, but when he does well, we go away from him. I wish Tennessee was that stupid when it comes to Henry.

They didn’t play him at all in the preseason and then give him 10 measly carries in a huge division game? And it’s not like he wasn’t producing. 64 yards on 10 carries. 6.4 yards per carry.

Absolute bullshit.

Mike Vrabel should be buying Reich dinner for a gift like that.

Omaha also said Leonard isn’t a leader, so he’s obviously drunk.

[Colts And Orioles]

I do believe if Wentz were healthy, we might have won that game. He had no lateral movement to buy more time in the pocket or roll out. A healthy Wentz could have done that. He shouldn't have played. Colts can lose without him just as easily as they did with him. My biggest fear, the team loses 12 games this year but Wentz takes more than 70% of the snaps and we give up a #1. If he's not able to move well, then don't start him.




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A month and-a-half ago, Jim Irsay said that he did not want Wentz playing on Opening Day against the Seahawks unless he was completely recovered from his foot surgery ......



Jim Irsay Says Colts don't Want Carson Wentz to Return until He's 100% Healthy

(By Mike Wells)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32011078/jim-irsay-says-indianapolis-colts-want-carson-wentz-return-100-healthy



Reich and company would have been wise to heed that advice regarding his latest injuries (2 sprained ankles.)

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[PowayColt]

Some are saying we would have won this game with a healthy Wentz. We don't know that because he's NEVER HEALTHY. We're not even out of September yet and he's already had two injuries and missed time due to his selfish decision to not get vaccinated. Eagles must be laughing their heads off. Sit Wentz and let's see what Eason can do. We need to find out and while at it, get some of our draft capital back.

[HoosierinFL]

I'll try for the less dramatic take on Omaha's 16 points of light.

1. Wentz needs time. He really missed too much time. And suddenly the offensive line sucks and that's not his fault. But he does need to make his reads faster.

2. OK, I can't tone this one down. We need to control the game by running the ball.

3. I think Fisher was a good idea but he might not work. But he also needs time. He literally was not playing football until about 10 days ago.

4. Yea this is weird. Eason was supposed to be the back up and then suddenly when we need a back up, he's not the guy? Then you have to cut him. We could do better with Brissett. What a colossal fuck up.

5. I secretly love Pascal but he can't be any teams #1. He's a great weapon if he's your #3. Again I can't understand why they scratched Strachan?

6. TE's can be more than just guys but why don't we use them?

7. Yea OK its weird.

8. I don't understand letting Autry go. What happened to signing guys who did their jobs?

9. See #11

10. Maybe, but with a healthy DL we've handled Henry before. But this defense has regressed.

11. Leadership. You're right here, we have none. i don't want to start another vax debate, but its a problem that these "leaders" are also the antivaxxers. Leaders start by leading by example. They haven't done that. At least 3 of the team captains (Nelson, Leonard, Wentz) are antivaxxers. On a pro football team its time to leave the politics and nonsense at home and show that you're willing to do what it takes to stay healthy and stay on the field. If half the team can't trust these leaders, then they aren't leading.

12. We can run well, but we don't try.

13. Nope, well, just the running game.

14. See #9.

15. Probably not, because I think he'll be fine. But we need a high round DB or pass rusher.

16. Hard to understand, but this team got worse. I'm wondering about Ballard's choices in who to let walk and who to keep.

[MDcolt]

I'll try for the less dramatic take on Omaha's 16 points of light.

1. Wentz needs time. He really missed too much time. And suddenly the offensive line sucks and that's not his fault. But he does need to make his reads faster.

2. OK, I can't tone this one down. We need to control the game by running the ball.

3. I think Fisher was a good idea but he might not work. But he also needs time. He literally was not playing football until about 10 days ago.

4. Yea this is weird. Eason was supposed to be the back up and then suddenly when we need a back up, he's not the guy? Then you have to cut him. We could do better with Brissett. What a colossal fuck up.

5. I secretly love Pascal but he can't be any teams #1. He's a great weapon if he's your #3. Again I can't understand why they scratched Strachan?

6. TE's can be more than just guys but why don't we use them?

7. Yea OK its weird.

8. I don't understand letting Autry go. What happened to signing guys who did their jobs?

9. See #11

10. Maybe, but with a healthy DL we've handled Henry before. But this defense has regressed.

11. Leadership. You're right here, we have none. i don't want to start another vax debate, but its a problem that these "leaders" are also the antivaxxers. Leaders start by leading by example. They haven't done that. At least 3 of the team captains (Nelson, Leonard, Wentz) are antivaxxers. On a pro football team its time to leave the politics and nonsense at home and show that you're willing to do what it takes to stay healthy and stay on the field. If half the team can't trust these leaders, then they aren't leading.

12. We can run well, but we don't try.

13. Nope, well, just the running game.

14. See #9.

15. Probably not, because I think he'll be fine. But we need a high round DB or pass rusher.

16. Hard to understand, but this team got worse. I'm wondering about Ballard's choices in who to let walk and who to keep.

Point 11 is spot on. And I would bet on this point causing extensive fracturing in the locker room. Wentz, Kelly, Leonard, Pascal, Fisher. Pathetic.

[omahacolt]

Omaha is drunk, and gets emotional when drunk. As for him being smart... well, he likes Keystone Light.

As to your point about Taylor, it has a bunch of people scratching their heads. The dude is one of our three offensive playmakers, but when he does well, we go away from him. I wish Tennessee was that stupid when it comes to Henry.

i like the price of keystone light but haven't drank it in probably 8 years.

[omahacolt]

They didn’t play him at all in the preseason and then give him 10 measly carries in a huge division game? And it’s not like he wasn’t producing. 64 yards on 10 carries. 6.4 yards per carry.

Absolute bullshit.

Mike Vrabel should be buying Reich dinner for a gift like that.

Omaha also said Leonard isn’t a leader, so he’s obviously drunk.
ok fine

leonard isn't a good leader

[omahacolt]

Some are saying we would have won this game with a healthy Wentz. We don't know that because he's NEVER HEALTHY. We're not even out of September yet and he's already had two injuries and missed time due to his selfish decision to not get vaccinated. Eagles must be laughing their heads off. Sit Wentz and let's see what Eason can do. We need to find out and while at it, get some of our draft capital back.

eason is done

they have zero faith in him. might as well cut him

[omahacolt]

I think you’re being a little dramatic.

Wentz has had like 5 practices since JOINING THE DAMN TEAM and was playing hurt on top of that and you’re done with him already? Come on, Omaha. I thought you were smarter than that.

I’m not convinced at all the Wentz is the answer but he’s what we have. And he’s not been that bad, all things considered.

If things don’t get any better, I’m not sure we shouldn’t try and salvage that first round pick AND try and get Wentz healthy, but I’m not at all convinced that we can’t win with him.

The single worst decision made today was Reich giving Taylor 10 freaking carries in a game that was close all the way. That’s inexcusable.

so you argument is that a player that is always hurt, can't be judged because he is hurt?

i don't think wentz is the worst qb out there. just that with all things considered, we invested too much into a guy that isn't the guy this team needs

[JAFF]

eason is done

they have zero faith in him. might as well cut him

That is not fair.

There was limited time in the year that is “pandemic that is not to be named” where there was limited coaching

[omahacolt]

That is not fair.

There was limited time in the year that is “pandemic that is not to be named” where there was limited coaching

if your #2 qb can't play? he isn't your #2 qb. eason should go to the practice squad and not take up reps from the real backup

[Hoopsdoc]

so you argument is that a player that is always hurt, can't be judged because he is hurt?

i don't think wentz is the worst qb out there. just that with all things considered, we invested too much into a guy that isn't the guy this team needs

He’s always going to be injury prone, largely because he’s always going to hold the ball a second to long trying to be the hero. The hope was that Reich would be able to help him with that.

I think it’s too early to make any decisions on that because he just hasn’t had enough time.

We know he can play at an MVP level.

As for doing any better, he was who Reich wanted, so he was always going to be the guy. Plus, they would have had to give up more for Fields, who was the only other realistic option. Well, other than Darnold, who would have made even less sense.

I just think it’s too early to say Wentz hasn’t worked out.

[Hoopsdoc]

That is not fair.

There was limited time in the year that is “pandemic that is not to be named” where there was limited coaching

He’s right about Eason. This past week finished him in Indy.

He wasn’t even the back up today, for crying out loud.

He’s done. They may as well cut him and move on.

[Thorgrim]

eason is done

they have zero faith in him. might as well cut him

Their lack of faith may be more of an indictment of their decision making rather than Eason’s ability. At this point I’m seriously questioning the capabilities of our coaching staff. Eason’s qualifications are immaterial if they have no faith, regardless of whether it’s justified. So sure, give that roster spot to someone else. But don’t be surprised if true talent is ushered out the door with these clowns at the helm.

[Chromeburn]

I’m wondering if Wentz is a slow processor. That’s why he buys time with his legs. So he can open the passing lanes up. I’m not sure he has any pocket awareness. Still would like to see some more. I was kinda thinking by taking away his mobility and forcing him to stay in the pocket was good for him. Force him to get that ball out.

Our linebackers are going to get a finesse label. Okereke, did he sit too long? I’ll give him the season at least. Our passrush still lags. So many draft picks spent on dline, will no one emerge?

We have a strangely built team. I feel like we have some good players but not in the most influential positions. Our purported strengths don’t look like strengths to me. We don’t dominate… ever. I’m mean your strength should have some dominant games every so often. Maybe when healthy? We have Taylor but don’t get him enough carries. Hines should have a minimum amounts of touches in space. Pittman is showing up which is promising.

We are digging a deep hole. I hate to say the season may be done by week three, but man we’re in a hole. Hopefully a win against the Phins will restore some faith. We may have a bad year and what sucks is we will probably lose our first round pick anyway.

[omahacolt]

He’s always going to be injury prone, largely because he’s always going to hold the ball a second to long trying to be the hero. The hope was that Reich would be able to help him with that.

I think it’s too early to make any decisions on that because he just hasn’t had enough time.

We know he can play at an MVP level.

As for doing any better, he was who Reich wanted, so he was always going to be the guy. Plus, they would have had to give up more for Fields, who was the only other realistic option. Well, other than Darnold, who would have made even less sense.

I just think it’s too early to say Wentz hasn’t worked out.
i understand i am pulling the plug early. mainly because i cant imagine him a long term option. to me, the investment was too big that we won't go qb early if one is there.

[Luck4Reich]

That is not fair.

There was limited time in the year that is “pandemic that is not to be named” where there was limited coaching

All teams dealt with the same issue. Stop using the Pandemic for an excuse.

Blame it on who is to blame which is the decision makers.

[omahacolt]

I’m wondering if Wentz is a slow processor. That’s why he buys time with his legs. So he can open the passing lanes up. I’m not sure he has any pocket awareness. Still would like to see some more. I was kinda thinking by taking away his mobility and forcing him to stay in the pocket was good for him. Force him to get that ball out.

Our linebackers are going to get a finesse label. Okereke, did he sit too long? I’ll give him the season at least. Our passrush still lags. So many draft picks spent on dline, will no one emerge?

We have a strangely built team. I feel like we have some good players but not in the most influential positions. Our purported strengths don’t look like strengths to me. We don’t dominate… ever. I’m mean your strength should have some dominant games every so often. Maybe when healthy? We have Taylor but don’t get him enough carries. Hines should have a minimum amounts of touches in space. Pittman is showing up which is promising.

We are digging a deep hole. I hate to say the season may be done by week three, but man we’re in a hole. Hopefully a win against the Phins will restore some faith. We may have a bad year and what sucks is we will probably lose our first round pick anyway.
wentz has been in the league long enough to not see ghosts out there. he should know where to go with the ball quickly. he doesnt

[rm1369]

We have a strangely built team.

I believe Ballard is still “collecting talent” not building a team. That’s why he’s ok repeatedly going into seasons with obvious holes or just gifting positions to young players. I think in his mind they are still not ready to compete. He’s still looking to the future, not today.

[YDFL Commish]

wentz has been in the league long enough to not see ghosts out there. he should know where to go with the ball quickly. he doesnt


Our receiving options don't get open, they are all #2's at best. Wentz today on 2 injured ankles played much better than Big Ben, who should go ahead and retire now.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

8. I don't understand letting Autry go. What happened to signing guys who did their jobs?




The Colts reportedly made Autry an offer that was similar in overall money to his contract with Tennessee. The main difference between the offers was that Tennessee was willing to guarantee a portion (~$2M) of Autry's salary during the 2022 season (he will be 32 next year). In the grand scheme of things, that is only about 1% of next year's cap.

I don't think Autry was willing to grant the Colts any favors either - I think he felt a bit disrespected that Ballard didn't want to extend him during the season like Grover Stewart and Ballard was willing to wait until the off season for the negotiations.

[apballin]

I’m just fuckin baffled Taylor is clearly our best player on offense and we get in the red zone and go shotgun spread with Hines

Taylor should be getting used the same way the Titans use Henry right now, keep giving him the ball beat up the defense and protect and scared QB

[Hoopsdoc]

I’m just fuckin baffled Taylor is clearly our best player on offense and we get in the red zone and go shotgun spread with Hines

Taylor should be getting used the same way the Titans use Henry right now, keep giving him the ball beat up the defense and protect and scared QB

It’s just maddening. To only give him 10 carries when he was playing well and the quarterback is on 2 bum ankles is just inexcusable.

Someone really ought to drive to the airport in Nashville and kick Reich in the balls when he gets on the plane.

[omahacolt]

Our receiving options don't get open, they are all #2's at best. Wentz today on 2 injured ankles played much better than Big Ben, who should go ahead and retire now.

not getting open is a good point.

[DragonTails]

See that great plan design by GB.

Adams walks in untouched while we run the ball up the middle 3 straight times - the same fkn play no less.

[Racehorse]

I believe Ballard is still “collecting talent” not building a team.

What does this even mean?

[CletusPyle]

It’s just maddening. To only give him 10 carries when he was playing well and the quarterback is on 2 bum ankles is just inexcusable.

Someone really ought to drive to the airport in Nashville and kick Reich in the balls when he gets on the plane.

This seems a little harsh.....:D

[Colts And Orioles]

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I think that if Wentz were healthy, we probably would have won the game today ..... and if the dog had not stopped to take a piss, he would have caught the rabbit.

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I do believe if Wentz were healthy, we might have won that game. He had no lateral movement to buy more time in the pocket or roll out. A healthy Wentz could have done that. He shouldn't have played. The Colts can lose without him just as easily as they did with him. My biggest fear, the team loses 12 games this year but Wentz takes more than 70% of the snaps and we give up a #1 draft pick. If he's not able to move well, then don't start him.




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Incidentally, it may not be just a coincidence that this was the first win for the Titans since October of 2007 in which they had a -3 turnover margin/differential.


https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200710070oti.htm

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[ChoppedWood]

Wentz is just as guilty now as he was in Philly. I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, that his line was terrible and that's why he took a beating. Nope, seen enough, he won't throw it on schedule unless dude is wide open. Case in point, and a personification of why this team now sucks. Early in the game 3rd down, they load up, they don't just bring 5, they bring 6. Taylor steps up, gives him exactly what he needs to step into the pass, he instead pumps- obviously trying to freeze someone, and in turn basically has to just noodle arm it into nothingness. Terrible, horrible, miserable. It's a 6 man blitz, YOU DO NOT HOLD that ball, you don't hold that ball in high school let alone the NFL.

Then to flip things around and again shine a giant spotlight on how poorly coached this team is. I think it was mid 2nd quarter, think it was 3rd and 12 or something for them. EVERY, and I mean EVERY team in the NFL brings heat in that situation forcing a quick throw as to avoid the receivers or backs getting beyond the sticks. What does Ebersuck do, he goes 4 man only. Not only that, he for some inexplicable reason loads one side with 3 basically in a bunc and then ONE DE on the right side--- one guy on that side of the line. Did we fire a blitz into the giant void in the middle, did we run a stunt, did we do a damned thing to try to confuse the OL? Hell no, we rushed 4 dudes exactly as they were lined up. Tanny sat in the pocket, played scrabble, at a ham sandwich and then tossed the ball to a dude for 15 and a FD.

Somewhere along the line this team deviated from being big, physical, fast, to gimmick gimmick gimmick. Not sure why but we've decided we are smart and we'll use the smarts to beat em'! Hey Frank, you might want to check on Charlie Weiss and ask him how his decided schematic advantage turned out...

This sucks!

[ChoppedWood]

And while I am here, this bullsh!t of EVERY F-king pass thrown over 15 yards being a PI, is criminal. This whole game is just trash at this point, very much unwatchable.

I know a bit off topic and posted because of what just happened in GB / SF game, but it also happened to us today so...

Roger has destroyed this game.

[Luck4Reich]

And while I am here, this bullsh!t of EVERY F-king pass thrown over 15 yards being a PI, is criminal. This whole game is just trash at this point, very much unwatchable.

I know a bit off topic and posted because of what just happened in GB / SF game, but it also happened to us today so...

Roger has destroyed this game.

It's pretty bad honestly.

[rm1369]

What does this even mean?

It means that teams who think they can compete often make different decisions than those rebuilding. Ballard makes decisions like he’s rebuilding. He isn’t filling holes to compete in a given year, he’s prioritizing the future with nearly every decision. Making so many decisions for the future has an affect on the present.

DE is a good example this season. How often do you think truly competitive teams go into the season without an edge rusher with double digit sacks? I’m not talking about for a season, I mean for a career!! I’d have to bet it’s not often. Yet, Ballard was comfortable with it. He prioritized getting his growing collection of athletes reps at DE. Long term over short term.

After drafting a 1st round DE he used his 2nd rounder on another DE that will be lucky to see the field this year. He did this instead of filling one of the other holes on the roster. Could be seen as a great move 2 years for now, but provides no help this year. Long term over short term.

Building a team is different than acquiring talent. Ballard leaves glaring holes in the roster every year. He does this because shorter term solutions have a cost he so far isn’t willing to pay. That’s more typical of a rebuilding team than a competing team.

[daedge]

They didn’t play him at all in the preseason and then give him 10 measly carries in a huge division game? And it’s not like he wasn’t producing. 64 yards on 10 carries. 6.4 yards per carry.

Absolute bullshit.

Mike Vrabel should be buying Reich dinner for a gift like that.

Omaha also said Leonard isn’t a leader, so he’s obviously drunk.

Bang on. This is what pisses me off - coach giving our best offensive threat the ball 10 times. Hell, I don't care if he's averaging 2.4 yards a carry, give him more than 10 carries. The play calling is rotten, pure rotten, and this team is quickly going down the shitter.

To think how much hope there was only a few weeks ago.....oh, how quick it can change.

Given a first round pick is at stake, it was a horrible decision to play a broken Wentz today. Look, don't get me wrong, if he's healthy we have to play him and I want nothing more than to win, but he's 70% and wouldn't have even been able to avoid a retired Brad Scioli in the pocket today. Sit his ass.

[albany ed]

What are the odds that Jacoby outplays Carson next week?

[DragonTails]

what are the odds that jacoby outplays carson next week?

-300

[MeSayDayo]

This is proof week #3 in a row of abysmal play calling from Reich and co. and the third week that I am calling for Frank to relinquish his play calling duties.

-Biggest crime in this game was not feeding JT, who mostly looked really good. Like you all have said, 10 carries for our best offensive weapon is inexcusable, especially because this game was never out of hand enough to justify it.

-Wentz was okay given his limitations. He was okay in game one or two because of shitty O-line play. We will likely have excuses for this guy until we run out of excuses and he proves that he is just that guy- slow to process, choreographs his reads and body movements, plays hero ball and is VERY injury prone. He is a very, very poor timing passer and is virtually the opposite of what we had in Phillip Rivers last season. How long are we going to give Wentz a free pass until we accept that maybe he is just an average QB? For years, we watched Manning put up MVP games and numbers and production with a shit O-line, Same as Luck....Why does Carson and his fragile body/ego get a pass? This guy is clearly not good enough to overcome an average roster and may only ball out if everything around him is absolutely perfect, even his own confidence and brain. Maybe we keep him around to facilitate the Sunday Morning Mass session for Frank and the boys?

-This front office and coaching staff should have at least sat Wentz for yesterdays game....maybe even all three. We are getting half measure answers that we needed clear answers from at this point. If we like Wentz and are committing to him as the guy for the future (which is crazy given his injury tendencies) and I think we will, since we invested so much capital in him. We are NUTS not to be sitting him for a few games to rest up, practice a ton, get his timing and reads down. If there is any chance he isn't the guy (and I think its a foregone conclusion), we need to sit him for 3 games straight and get our pick back. We must. Call it bad gamesmanship, call it what you want...but this squad has proven so far that they are WAY further away from competing than we thought. We need to take drastic measures to make a quick, new rebuild with the limited assets that we have, weather we think Wentz is our 10 year plan or 2 year plan. If he's our 10 year plan, we need way more talent for him to produce and need that first rounder. If he's our 2 year plan, we need need his replacement and that first rounder to do so. The way I see it, we need that first rounder regardless and need to swiftly make decisions to plan accordingly.

Let Brady call the plays. Sit Wentz. Play Eason until he's so bad that you can cut him. Ride out the shit campaign and plan a half measure rebuild so we don't need to full on rebuild. This might require us to trade a DL or QN....I'd say lets trade Wentz but I honestly believe nobody would touch his broken ass with a 10 foot pole. I think we plan ahead with Wentz as our 2 year or longer bridge/backup QB.

And in the offseason I would VERY seriously consider pursuing ARod from the packers (even though he is a douche), who will cost us nothing but cap hit to acquire. Hell, and Devante Adams too. Let 10 players walk and suddenly we have a ton of cap space again. Your thoughts?

I am at a point where I want to trade everybody of value. JT for a first or second maybe?

[albany ed]

Let Brady call the plays. Sit Wentz. Play Eason until he's so bad that you can cut him. Ride out the shit campaign and plan a half measure rebuild so we don't need to full on rebuild. This might require us to trade a DL or QN....I'd say lets trade Wentz but I honestly believe nobody would touch his broken ass with a 10 foot pole. I think we plan ahead with Wentz as our 2 year or longer bridge/backup QB.

I agree, sit Wentz until he's at least 100% healthy. The season is lost, I hate the idea of losing with Wentz so the Eagles can get our #1. Nobody wants Wentz, we were the only team pursuing him.


And in the offseason I would VERY seriously consider pursuing ARod from the packers (even though he is a douche), who will cost us nothing but cap hit to acquire. Hell, and Devante Adams too. Let 10 players walk and suddenly we have a ton of cap space again. Your thoughts?

Rodgers won't come to Indy. He'll want to go to a big name market like NY Giants or Miami or Denver.


I am at a point where I want to trade everybody of value. JT for a first or second maybe?

JT and Hines (if used correctly) are the only entertaining players on this team, and after all, it may be a business to management, but to me and most fans, it's entertainment.

[Oldcolt]

I disagree with most of my fellow freaks. To me, this is all about who has been injured on the offensive side. Defensively we have a 20 million dollar a year linebacker who plays like a free agent rookie. Do any of you honestly think he regressed or do you think he no longer is dominant because he doesn't have mobility from an ankle injury? For the last few years our offensive line was dominant because we had three dominant players Kelly (maybe not dominant but damn good), Smith (nobody got near the qb from his side for two years) and of course Nelson. None of these guys are playing or if they are they are playing like a shell of themselves. The only legitimate (hopefully) deep threat at WR hasn't even seen the field and the quarterback is injured, which everyone seems to think is his problem, not the fact that he is getting killed by shit offensive line play due to injuries. Wentz is injury prone but Luck was just tough. Bullshit. They both got killed by their offensive lines. I'm on board with sitting Wentz until he is healthy. For me the biggest screw up has been the abysmal play of our defensive ends, Ballard has really screwed that up, doesn't appear to be able to evaluate them worth a shit. Shit season without a number one draft choice since the Colts will not sit Wentz. Reich is way overrated as a coach. Another good guy that wants love in his locker so he fires Guge because he is an asshole. An asshole that had this line playing at its best. Winning isn't the priority for this team and these guys. I say this because so many of the so called leaders are anti vaxx, considering the rules the league has put down you are putting your personal shit way before the team. This is the least likable Colt team for me in my memory. They make it way to easy not to care, unfortunately I still do.

[DragonTails]

Most of what everyone is saying is true.

However, we could easily be 2-1 if we weren't 29th in the red zone. Better play calling and a few more TD's instead of FGs/no points and none of this other stuff would matter. That what happens when you win.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Another good guy that wants love in his locker so he fires Guge because he is an asshole. An asshole that had this line playing at its best.


Eh, I think a lot of people overrate Guge.

Even if he was renewed for another year, I doubt he would have made it past year 2.

Take a look at his coaching history.

7 of his last 8 coaching stops lasted 1 year. The 8th stop lasted 2 years.

I think that Big Q really liked him as a person but even he admitted that they didn't work on technique as much as he did in college and that his technique was starting to get sloppy by the end of the year with Guge.

[rcubed]

I disagree with most of my fellow freaks. To me, this is all about who has been injured on the offensive side. Defensively we have a 20 million dollar a year linebacker who plays like a free agent rookie. Do any of you honestly think he regressed or do you think he no longer is dominant because he doesn't have mobility from an ankle injury? For the last few years our offensive line was dominant because we had three dominant players Kelly (maybe not dominant but damn good), Smith (nobody got near the qb from his side for two years) and of course Nelson. None of these guys are playing or if they are they are playing like a shell of themselves. The only legitimate (hopefully) deep threat at WR hasn't even seen the field and the quarterback is injured, which everyone seems to think is his problem, not the fact that he is getting killed by shit offensive line play due to injuries. Wentz is injury prone but Luck was just tough. Bullshit. They both got killed by their offensive lines. I'm on board with sitting Wentz until he is healthy. For me the biggest screw up has been the abysmal play of our defensive ends, Ballard has really screwed that up, doesn't appear to be able to evaluate them worth a shit. Shit season without a number one draft choice since the Colts will not sit Wentz. Reich is way overrated as a coach. Another good guy that wants love in his locker so he fires Guge because he is an asshole. An asshole that had this line playing at its best. Winning isn't the priority for this team and these guys. I say this because so many of the so called leaders are anti vaxx, considering the rules the league has put down you are putting your personal shit way before the team. This is the least likable Colt team for me in my memory. They make it way to easy not to care, unfortunately I still do.
I am more along these lines. Someone above mentioned "why are we giving wentz a pass?" I dont see it that way. He is playing kinda like I expected, pretty good but not great. Given some time and playmakers he would be good enough for us to compete. Not given time and playmakers, well he isnt good enough to overcome that. The situation is exacerbated by the injuries/bad play/bad play calling. If we were operating with the dominant line and running game we are used to, I think wentz would be good enough, but I never expected him to be transcendent.

[HoosierinFL]

The more I think about it, the more I worry about this defense. It isn't as banged up as the offense.

I was willing to let the Seattle game go, we know that Wilson is good and dangerous. And I was willing to let the Rams game go, because everyone says McVay is an offensive genius and now he has Stafford. And we were even competitive in that one. But now we've given up 25 points and looked hapless vs the Titans?

Best case scenario right now is being 5-5 after the Jags game on Nov 14. That isn't terrible. But given the schedule its hard for me to see more than 6 or 7 wins in total. Thats just terrible.

[rcubed]

It means that teams who think they can compete often make different decisions than those rebuilding. Ballard makes decisions like he’s rebuilding. He isn’t filling holes to compete in a given year, he’s prioritizing the future with nearly every decision. Making so many decisions for the future has an affect on the present.

DE is a good example this season. How often do you think truly competitive teams go into the season without an edge rusher with double digit sacks? I’m not talking about for a season, I mean for a career!! I’d have to bet it’s not often. Yet, Ballard was comfortable with it. He prioritized getting his growing collection of athletes reps at DE. Long term over short term.

After drafting a 1st round DE he used his 2nd rounder on another DE that will be lucky to see the field this year. He did this instead of filling one of the other holes on the roster. Could be seen as a great move 2 years for now, but provides no help this year. Long term over short term.

Building a team is different than acquiring talent. Ballard leaves glaring holes in the roster every year. He does this because shorter term solutions have a cost he so far isn’t willing to pay. That’s more typical of a rebuilding team than a competing team.
yep, I am souring on ballard's plan. I liked it initially, but it hasnt come to fruition like it should have. Whether thats lucks retirement, too much future planning, not getting enough good FA talent , a mix of all... we are no longer trending it the right direction.

[Brylok]

We're a bottom 5 team right now. Smh

[njcoltfan]

The more I think about it, the more I worry about this defense. It isn't as banged up as the offense.

I was willing to let the Seattle game go, we know that Wilson is good and dangerous. And I was willing to let the Rams game go, because everyone says McVay is an offensive genius and now he has Stafford. And we were even competitive in that one. But now we've given up 25 points and looked hapless vs the Titans?

Best case scenario right now is being 5-5 after the Jags game on Nov 14. That isn't terrible. But given the schedule its hard for me to see more than 6 or 7 wins in total. Thats just terrible.
The Colt's are in year 5 of the Ballard build thru the draft team building, and I don't think its working that well !! Andrew Luck screwed this franchise really, really bad, and Ballard is compounding the effects of that screwing by fucking around with the QB position. IMHO Wentz is nothing special, and he spends a lot of time not playing. The Colt's maybe finish with 7-8 wins, no 1st round draft pick, and Wentz? as the future. Thanks Andrew.

[Oldcolt]

Most of us are old enough on this board to recognize that shit happens to everyone. It destroys the weak but the strong learn to work through and with it. I do not think we can turn this around this year (meaning a deep playoff run) with all that is going on but how this team responds the rest of the year will go a long way in determining just how much of a rebuild we will be needing. I'll watch for improvements in little things this year, not exactly where my mind was a month ago.

[Chromeburn]

We're a bottom 5 team right now. Smh

We’re not that bad. Rams are the new Super Bowl favorite since they beat the Bucs. And we played them tough.

[Chromeburn]

The Colt's are in year 5 of the Ballard build thru the draft team building, and I don't think its working that well !! Andrew Luck screwed this franchise really, really bad, and Ballard is compounding the effects of that screwing by fucking around with the QB position. IMHO Wentz is nothing special, and he spends a lot of time not playing. The Colt's maybe finish with 7-8 wins, no 1st round draft pick, and Wentz? as the future. Thanks Andrew.

You either have a franchise QB, or you are looking for one. Until that is settled, we can’t move forward. I do want to see a healthy Wentz behind a healthy line though. I’m not sure how we will end yet, might hit nine wins if we get healthy.

[Chaka]

I get that everyone needs to vent after a loss like this, but this is getting absurd. We are 3 games into a 17-game season. We have lost to three playoff teams, one of whom (the Rams) just beat the reigning champions. While I could point out that we managed to stay close to all three teams, I don’t really agree since I feel we were hanging by a thread in all three games to some extent.

Three days ago, many of you were singing Wentz’s praises, and those that weren’t were grudgingly admitting that he was playing better than expected. Since then, all the guy does is come out and play on two (TWO!) sprained ankles, and – shockingly – has a bit of a tough day. It was clear he had no mobility and was likely in pain and maybe he WAS seeing ghosts (I don’t know, though, most of those “ghosts” appeared pretty real to me) – but I don’t fault the guy for perhaps being concerned about being hit in the lower leg area given his injuries. You all saw the Donald tackle and the awkward angle Wentz’s ankle took. Sure, you can argue that Wentz shouldn’t have played at all, but the guy’s a competitor and obviously wanted to play in a key division game. The fact that we didn’t have a more reliable backup, to the extent that played into the decision, is on Ballard I’ll agree. Obviously, the Colts staff told Wentz to throw/kill the ball if he got into severe pressure, which explains some of his worst plays. The stats show that Wentz’s passing was significantly different that it was in the last two games, pre-injury.

As far for the line failures, well, I don’t know what to say. Apart from LT, I think the Colts were perfectly entitled to assume the line was in good shape and not a reason for concern. The fact that the OL has played so poorly is very disappointing. LT is on Ballard too, of course. I don’t know that the Colts knew that Fisher wasn’t going to be ready at the beginning of the season, but obviously Tevi and Davenport were the backup plan if he wasn’t. And that hasn’t worked out so well. I think Omaha’s comment about Nelson being out and nobody noticing is very interesting and is worth some significant thought. If the OL can regain any semblance of its former self, I think we'll see a much different team.

The defense has been another big disappointment. Again, apart from DE, I think it was reasonable for the Colts to think they were in good shape here. And the Colts used their 1st and 2nd picks on DEs to address this (yes, I know Odeyingbo isn’t able to play yet), so obviously they recognize the problem and are trying to address it. For those saying they should have done more, what FAs should they have signed? Top end DEs just aren’t available that way. Overall, I have to think coaching is a major issue given that these players have shown they can be effective in the past.

The idea that Ballard’s second round picks have been massive failures is unfair. Leonard, Smith and Taylor were all second round picks. Pittman was too. Yes, they’re have been many underperforming players also, but is his batting average significantly worse than other GMs in this round?

As for those who now think we should have gone a different direction at QB, who should be have brought in? Fields or Jones? Did I miss something and were they available when we picked? They are also only three games into their careers and resting the Colts future on either of their shoulders is anything but a sure thing. Both sucked pretty bad this weekend, and no guarantee they’ll get better. Again, it is very, very rare to get a quality QB in FA, and outside of the top few picks a QB in the draft is going to be a major risk and require time. The Colts were (are?) ready to compete now. Wentz was a good risk with lots of upside, and available at a discount. His contract is great too, and we can even cut bait after two years if he totally bombs, though I don’t think he will. You could argue Darnold would have been a better choice, but I doubt he would have played any better than Wentz under the circumstances as he’s less mobile. Our coaching staff knew Wentz better too.

Anyway, it’s far from the time when we should throw in the towel on the season. There are 14 more games to play. A win or two will help right the ship. And for those calling for the Colts to sit Wentz to preserve their 1st round pick, well, I have no doubt the Colts will do so if the season goes completely down the drain by week 10 or so. If Wentz sucks, they can easily justify bringing in Eason/Hundley or someone else at that point. It doesn’t have to be because of injury. Until then, don’t expect them to let up, nor should they.

[albany ed]

We’re not that bad. Rams are the new Super Bowl favorite since they beat the Bucs. And we played them tough.

you've got a point. In three games by the Rams, only the Colts held them under 30 points and Stafford under 300 passing yards. The offense blows right now, but the highly regarded O-line has not taken one snap with all the starters and Wentz? Even if healthy, I have my doubts, but he would be serviceable.

[DragonTails]

I get that everyone needs to vent after a loss like this, but this is getting absurd. We are 3 games into a 17-game season. We have lost to three playoff teams, one of whom (the Rams) just beat the reigning champions. While I could point out that we managed to stay close to all three teams, I don’t really agree since I feel we were hanging by a thread in all three games to some extent.

Three days ago, many of you were singing Wentz’s praises, and those that weren’t were grudgingly admitting that he was playing better than expected. Since then, all the guy does is come out and play on two (TWO!) sprained ankles, and – shockingly – has a bit of a tough day. It was clear he had no mobility and was likely in pain and maybe he WAS seeing ghosts (I don’t know, though, most of those “ghosts” appeared pretty real to me) – but I don’t fault the guy for perhaps being concerned about being hit in the lower leg area given his injuries. You all saw the Donald tackle and the awkward angle Wentz’s ankle took. Sure, you can argue that Wentz shouldn’t have played at all, but the guy’s a competitor and obviously wanted to play in a key division game. The fact that we didn’t have a more reliable backup, to the extent that played into the decision, is on Ballard I’ll agree. Obviously, the Colts staff told Wentz to throw/kill the ball if he got into severe pressure, which explains some of his worst plays. The stats show that Wentz’s passing was significantly different that it was in the last two games, pre-injury.

As far for the line failures, well, I don’t know what to say. Apart from LT, I think the Colts were perfectly entitled to assume the line was in good shape and not a reason for concern. The fact that the OL has played so poorly is very disappointing. LT is on Ballard too, of course. I don’t know that the Colts knew that Fisher wasn’t going to be ready at the beginning of the season, but obviously Tevi and Davenport were the backup plan if he wasn’t. And that hasn’t worked out so well. I think Omaha’s comment about Nelson being out and nobody noticing is very interesting and is worth some significant thought. If the OL can regain any semblance of its former self, I think we'll see a much different team.

The defense has been another big disappointment. Again, apart from DE, I think it was reasonable for the Colts to think they were in good shape here. And the Colts used their 1st and 2nd picks on DEs to address this (yes, I know Odeyingbo isn’t able to play yet), so obviously they recognize the problem and are trying to address it. For those saying they should have done more, what FAs should they have signed? Top end DEs just aren’t available that way. Overall, I have to think coaching is a major issue given that these players have shown they can be effective in the past.

The idea that Ballard’s second round picks have been massive failures is unfair. Leonard, Smith and Taylor were all second round picks. Pittman was too. Yes, they’re have been many underperforming players also, but is his batting average significantly worse than other GMs in this round?

As for those who now think we should have gone a different direction at QB, who should be have brought in? Fields or Jones? Did I miss something and were they available when we picked? They are also only three games into their careers and resting the Colts future on either of their shoulders is anything but a sure thing. Both sucked pretty bad this weekend, and no guarantee they’ll get better. Again, it is very, very rare to get a quality QB in FA, and outside of the top few picks a QB in the draft is going to be a major risk and require time. The Colts were (are?) ready to compete now. Wentz was a good risk with lots of upside, and available at a discount. His contract is great too, and we can even cut bait after two years if he totally bombs, though I don’t think he will. You could argue Darnold would have been a better choice, but I doubt he would have played any better than Wentz under the circumstances as he’s less mobile. Our coaching staff knew Wentz better too.

Anyway, it’s far from the time when we should throw in the towel on the season. There are 14 more games to play. A win or two will help right the ship. And for those calling for the Colts to sit Wentz to preserve their 1st round pick, well, I have no doubt the Colts will do so if the season goes completely down the drain by week 10 or so. If Wentz sucks, they can easily justify bringing in Eason/Hundley or someone else at that point. It doesn’t have to be because of injury. Until then, don’t expect them to let up, nor should they.

I see you didn't mention anything regarding play calling and 29th rank offense in redzone offense.

I lot of this is poor coaching and uninspired play design. 2 games ago I watched them use the same formation, same motion, and then run the same play 2 times in a row several occasions.

They never build off previous plays, they don't run quick passes, they don't know how to use personal, they don't know how to run rub routes at the goal line - or any part of the field.

Simply watch the GB/SF game and see the wonderful play designs.

I don't really care that Taylor only got 10 carries if the plan was to pass their way to victory but they didn't account for anything the defense might do.

They can't run a screen to save their lives. When was the last time you saw a misdirection screen? Just just all boring, stupid, shit.

GD junior high school coach could do better. Might as well punt on 2nd down.

They don't attack anything and play like a bunch of pussies that know they are going to lose.

[YDFL Commish]

Maybe a little off topic, but how is that the late Steve McNair was always considered a "WARRIOR" when he played injured, and yet was never considered injury prone, while QB's like Wentz who do the same thing, are considered injury prone, but never get credit for playing through those injuries?

BTW, i hate the term "WARRIOR" when used in the the context of any NFL player.

[Puck]

Omaha is drunk, and gets emotional when drunk. As for him being smart... well, he likes Keystone Light.

As to your point about Taylor, it has a bunch of people scratching their heads. The dude is one of our three offensive playmakers, but when he does well, we go away from him. I wish Tennessee was that stupid when it comes to Henry.

Pretty sure with the unemployment bonus he can buy Yuengling now, But he may just be using the extra on crack

[Puck]

We’re not that bad. Rams are the new Super Bowl favorite since they beat the Bucs. And we played them tough.

They should be the SB favorite They are good

[Chaka]

I see you didn't mention anything regarding play calling and 29th rank offense in redzone offense.

I lot of this is poor coaching and uninspired play design. 2 games ago I watched them use the same formation, same motion, and then run the same play 2 times in a row several occasions.

They never build off previous plays, they don't run quick passes, they don't know how to use personal, they don't know how to run rub routes at the goal line - or any part of the field.

Simply watch the GB/SF game and see the wonderful play designs.

I don't really care that Taylor only got 10 carries if the plan was to pass their way to victory but they didn't account for anything the defense might do.

They can't run a screen to save their lives. When was the last time you saw a misdirection screen? Just just all boring, stupid, shit.

GD junior high school coach could do better. Might as well punt on 2nd down.

They don't attack anything and play like a bunch of pussies that know they are going to lose.

I am not arguing that the Colts have played well, the coaches have been great, or that any of us should be pleased with the season so far. I'm just making the point that the idea the Colts should start playing for next year at this point is crazy. I'm sure that most of this is just venting frustration, but it sounded so harsh that I wanted to add my two cents.

[DragonTails]

I also wanted to make the point that they seem to start and play every game not to lose. Except on 4th downs - then they play to lose.

Can they ever just come out a dictate the pace of a game? Do we ever use the no huddle. GD, I hate these coaches.

Defense is just as bad. they just sit back and take it. JC, at least go down swinging. Blitz, send the house every now and then and more. Try something fkn different.

Whatever you are doing it ain't working. Do you actually game plan?

[Oldcolt]

I am not arguing that the Colts have played well, the coaches have been great, or that any of us should be pleased with the season so far. I'm just making the point that the idea the Colts should start playing for next year at this point is crazy. I'm sure that most of this is just venting frustration, but it sounded so harsh that I wanted to add my two cents.

Disagree. No Nelson, Hilton (with a #3 as our #1 receiver), Smith (replaced by a turnstile) , Leonard is a shell of himself, defensive ends suck, Paye needs a year to learn, defensive backfield is a mess and our QB can't move. This team has to many strategic injuries to dominating players. They are no longer dominating and that has had a huge effect on this team. All throwing Wentz out there is doing is giving away our first round draft choice, a high one at this rate. Sit him and let him heal before he gets permanently injured. He can't protect himself and god knows neither can this line. Maybe not play for next year but can we at least keep a freaking eye on it?

[CletusPyle]

Disagree. No Nelson, Hilton (with a #3 as our #1 receiver), Smith (replaced by a turnstile) , Leonard is a shell of himself, defensive ends suck, Paye needs a year to learn, defensive backfield is a mess and our QB can't move. This team has to many strategic injuries to dominating players. They are no longer dominating and that has had a huge effect on this team. All throwing Wentz out there is doing is giving away our first round draft choice, a high one at this rate. Sit him and let him heal before he gets permanently injured. He can't protect himself and god knows neither can this line. Maybe not play for next year but can we at least keep a freaking eye on it?

This is probably a silly question and, if so, I apologize in advance....but if Wentz heals up and is healthy, would it be considered dishonest or even deception on the part of the Colts if they choose to not play him just to avoid losing their #1 pick?

[rcubed]

^^^ probably not within the spirit of the agreement but who gives a fuck.

[CletusPyle]

^^^ probably not within the spirit of the agreement but who gives a fuck.

The Eagles?:D

[Oldcolt]

This is probably a silly question and, if so, I apologize in advance....but if Wentz heals up and is healthy, would it be considered dishonest or even deception on the part of the Colts if they choose to not play him just to avoid losing their #1 pick?

not in my mind, phili fans who go ballistic which would only make me happier

[omahacolt]

This is probably a silly question and, if so, I apologize in advance....but if Wentz heals up and is healthy, would it be considered dishonest or even deception on the part of the Colts if they choose to not play him just to avoid losing their #1 pick?

it would be disgusting if the colts did that

[Chromeburn]

The failure is across the board.

Front office in not adequately addressing the backup tackle and QB situation. Our passrush still looks stagnant after serious investment.

Coaches in the gameplans and play calling. Time management has been an issue. Scoring in the red zone is a huge issue. A stud like Taylor getting just 10 carries after he looks good. And in general the team lacks fire especially on defense. Not been a problem before.

Players, injuries have derailed our best performers. But even the healthy guys have not been performing. Leonard looks like a shell of himself. He needs to heal. Stewart is not performing to last years effort. Again it is Buckner getting double teamed and no one else showing up. The oline has been underwhelming. Wentz is more effective at 20% than his backups at 100%.

Said it before, this is the hardest opening schedule of any team in 30 years.

Perfect storm to where we are now.

If Jacoby Brisset beats us next Sunday…

[nate505]

This is probably a silly question and, if so, I apologize in advance....but if Wentz heals up and is healthy, would it be considered dishonest or even deception on the part of the Colts if they choose to not play him just to avoid losing their #1 pick?

No. They'd be extremely stupid to play him if he's healthy and the Colts have no shot at a playoff spot.

[apballin]

We’re still gonna win the division

[Mr. Session]

We’re still gonna win the division

I'm definitely down like mostly everyone else, but I still have a strong feeling that they have a shot.

They are not that deep in the hole compared to Tennessee, and fuck those fags anyway. Indy will beat them in Indianapolis.

[Chromeburn]

I'm definitely down like mostly everyone else, but I still have a strong feeling that they have a shot.

They are not that deep in the hole compared to Tennessee, and fuck those fags anyway. Indy will beat them in Indianapolis.

Its still early. They need to get healthy. But I think a reoccurring issue sinks the team again, no pass rush. Unless one of these guys steps up.

[Oldcolt]

I read this morning we have played 14 games without TY since his rookie year in 2012. We have won one.

[CletusPyle]

I'm definitely down like mostly everyone else, but I still have a strong feeling that they have a shot.

They are not that deep in the hole compared to Tennessee, and fuck those fags anyway. Indy will beat them in Indianapolis.

If you look at the remaining schedule, any reasonable person can see this team can realistically go 9-5 the rest of the way...get an upset win and they could go 10-7 and win the division.

But going all in on Wentz with no experienced proven back up will likely cost them any chance of a post season!

[Oldcolt]

I believe with Wentz we can go 10-7. His lack of vaccination makes me think we will have to be very lucky for him not to miss any games because of it. One more obstacle that Colts players have put there themselves

[HoosierinFL]

any reasonable person can see this team can realistically go 9-5 the rest of the way

that doesn't seem reasonable to me at all:

Colts at Dolphins - Win seems likely
Colts at Ravens - no way
Texans at Colts - win
Colts at 49ers - seems unlikely to me, I think we go 0-4 against the NFCW
Titans at Colts - win
Jets at Colts - win
Jags at Colts - win

At this point, winning 3 in a row and 4 of 5 would seem like a nice streak, and we'd be 5-5.
But then...

Colts at Bills - loss
Buccs at Colts - loss
Colts at Texans - toss up. Do we have TY?
Pats at Colts - win (i hope)
Colts at Cardinals - loss
Raiders at Colts - loss (unless they melt down, they are currently kicking people's ass)
Colts at Jags - loss (toss up maybe?)

They way I have it, we would end up with only 1 win after the 5-5 mark, ending up 6-11.
Now if we win at Texans AND at Jags, we can be 8-9, but that is the best case scenario as far as I can see, and one I do not consider to be entirely realistic. I cannot reasonably see where we'd get 1-2 more wins and finish 9-8. 10-7 is outlandish at this point

[Colts And Orioles]

If you look at the remaining schedule, any reasonable person can see this team can realistically go 9-5 the rest of the way ......




o


An even more reasonable person would say, "Let's beat the Dolphins on Sunday, soak up that win and enjoy it, and don't even think about the remaining plethora of games."

The 2018 Colts started out at 1-5, and finished at 10-6 ...... if this team has anything like that in them, it will show up over time. If they don't, then it won't. Just win this one game, and focus on the next one when it comes.

o

[CletusPyle]

that doesn't seem reasonable to me at all:

Colts at Dolphins - Win seems likely
Colts at Ravens - no way
Texans at Colts - win
Colts at 49ers - seems unlikely to me, I think we go 0-4 against the NFCW
Titans at Colts - win
Jets at Colts - win
Jags at Colts - win

At this point, winning 3 in a row and 4 of 5 would seem like a nice streak, and we'd be 5-5.
But then...

Colts at Bills - loss
Buccs at Colts - loss
Colts at Texans - toss up. Do we have TY?
Pats at Colts - win (i hope)
Colts at Cardinals - loss
Raiders at Colts - loss (unless they melt down, they are currently kicking people's ass)
Colts at Jags - loss (toss up maybe?)

They way I have it, we would end up with only 1 win after the 5-5 mark, ending up 6-11.
Now if we win at Texans AND at Jags, we can be 8-9, but that is the best case scenario as far as I can see, and one I do not consider to be entirely realistic. I cannot reasonably see where we'd get 1-2 more wins and finish 9-8. 10-7 is outlandish at this point

I appreciate your effort here, and you make a good argument, but I think the Colts are capable of sweeping the Texans and Jags, and beating the Raiders...the 49ers or Cardinals would be tough to pull off but far from outlandish. But if they lose to the Dolphins it blows everything up!

[apballin]

Julio and AJ are OUT for jets game

[DragonTails]

I think the Colts are capable of sweeping the Texans and Jags, and beating the Raiders!

See what everyone says at 0-4 and Brissett looking golden.

[Chromeburn]

See what everyone says at 0-4 and Brissett looking golden.

I bet we still beat them. They have a poor run defense. Might quiet people for a week. But I bet we lose the next two.

[apballin]

I bet we still beat them. They have a poor run defense. Might quiet people for a week. But I bet we lose the next two.

So we loser to the Texans at home? No fuckin way

[JAFF]

So we loser to the Texans at home? No fuckin way

You just clinched it.

[apballin]

I like the way this team is standing up like men saying we’re 0-3 not running or making excuses especially Wentz this team is gonna get rolling and I’m hoping it starts in Miami this week