4th and 8 was my 62-7 moment for the Ballard/Steichen regime.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by albany ed

And right now, there are some 12 lads in Kansas City that are convinced that Patrick Mahomes is the GOAT......and you old-timers (anyone over 30) just want to stick to your memories.

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Patrick Mahomes is a better quarterback than Tom Brady......I would takes Patrick Mahomes over Tom Brady 10 times out of 10.

If I had a choice between Patrick Mahomes, Dan Marino, and Peyton Manning, I would have to think about it......but I would take any one of those 3 over Tom Brady.

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[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by albany ed

I don’t place my opinion on championships alone, although as a field general, you are considered the most important cog in winning. Brady leads Manning in every stat. Passing yards, completions, passing TDs, rushing TDs and passer rating. Like I said, I love Manning, but if I take off my blue tinted glasses and see the world the way every single expert outside of Colts mafia does, Brady is the GOAT.

One stat you failed to mention is tainted seasons due to the player and/or his team cheating. Brady easily leads in that category at 9+ seasons to 0 for Manning.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

DJ should audible out of that. They were selling out to stop the run. But honestly even if they score they still have to stop Mahomes.

This is incorrect as KC already had their possession. If we had scored a TD we would have won.

Steichen said he was trying to run clock


which is absolutely retarded. so he was cool to run into a 9 man box

It's super retarded since if we score a TD the game's over. This is pretty similar to when SS went super conservative last year vs. the Donks when we got to within ~60 yard FG range. Only then we were bailed out by the Donks ST penalty.

[albany ed]

Jeff Saturday

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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Patrick Mahomes is a better quarterback than Tom Brady......I would takes Patrick Mahomes over Tom Brady 10 times out of 10.

If I had a choice between Patrick Mahomes, Dan Marino, and Peyton Manning, I would have to think about it......but I would take any one of those 3 over Tom Brady.

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Which one would you take with those Patriot defenses. Marino would have slaughtered teams. Peyton would have kept his defenses fresh with long possessions.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

This has been bandied about a bit. But Many people think that Manning was greatest regular season QB.

Manning was the best QB period. He wasn't on the best teams, unfortunately, but he was the best QB to ever play the game.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by albany ed

I don’t place my opinion on championships alone, although as a field general, you are considered the most important cog in winning. Brady leads Manning in every stat. Passing yards, completions, passing TDs, rushing TDs and passer rating. Like I said, I love Manning, but if I take off my blue tinted glasses and see the world the way every single expert outside of Colts mafia does, Brady is the GOAT.

He had 23 seasons to Manning's 17, OF COURSE he should have better counting stats than Manning. Manning kills him on a per game basis, however, and again, Manning won 5 MVPs in 17 NFL seasons, Brady won 3 in 23. This is a no brainer if you look past the very surface of the numbers.

[albany ed]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

He had 23 seasons to Manning's 17, OF COURSE he should have better counting stats than Manning. Manning kills him on a per game basis, however, and again, Manning won 5 MVPs in 17 NFL seasons, Brady won 3 in 23. This is a no brainer if you look past the very surface of the numbers.

I wouldn't say he kills him, Here are some per game stats

Manning 270 ypg. 2 TD per game
Brady 266 ypg 1.9 TD per game

However, Manning does kill Brady in total interceptions

Manning 251 - 27 of which were pick sixes
Brady 212 - 13 of which were pick sixes

[Oldcolt]

This is a fun argument you guys are having. My own opinion is that there is no one QB who historically just stands head and shoulders above everyone else. Everyone thinks the greatest of all time was a player they watched, 40 years from now neither Brady or Maning will be the GOAT for those fans, it will be somebody not even born yet. Having said that Brady and Manning played in the same era and in my opinion Manning was way better than Brady at their peak. Without Manning the Colts were mediocre, without Brady the Patriots were still contenders.

[albany ed]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

This is a fun argument you guys are having. My own opinion is that there is no one QB who historically just stands head and shoulders above everyone else. Everyone thinks the greatest of all time was a player they watched, 40 years from now neither Brady or Maning will be the GOAT for those fans, it will be somebody not even born yet. Having said that Brady and Manning played in the same era and in my opinion Manning was way better than Brady at their peak. Without Manning the Colts were mediocre, without Brady the Patriots were still contenders.

You're correct, there are differing opinions on the subject, fans of their favorite team want their QB to be the GOAT

There are some who say Otto Graham was the GOAT
There are some who say Unitas was the GOAT
There are some who say Montana was the GOAT
There are some who say Marino was the GOAT
There are some who say Elway was the GOAT
There are some who say Manning was the GOAT
There are some who say Mahomes is the GOAT

But most say Brady was the GOAT

I do agree, in the regular season, Manning was the best, but in the playoffs, he was not.