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From all the reports, Ballard wanted Pagano gone. That then begs the question "So what did Irsay tell Ballard to make him accept Pagano for at least a year?"

He may have told him something like "Look, I know you want Pagano gone, but I have too much money to pay him this year on his contract even if I fire him, plus paying the new coach. I would prefer a year to see what he can do with you."

Irsay should just take the hit and let Ballard bring in who he wants at HC, but he isn't. I was hoping Polian would advise him to fire Pagano too. This sucks.
When Ballard sees the team get off to slow starts every game, non-existent game planes, dumb ass fake punt formations, etc. Ballard will ask Irsay why the fuck did you make me keep this clown? Can I fire him now?!
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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 31m31 minutes ago
A presser today, but Colts GM Chris Ballard intends to keep HC Chuck Pagano for 2017, then re-evaluate for 2018, per league sources.

I mean, maybe since he's new, he doesn't feel like his first order of business should be firing the head coach, regardless of how terrible he may be?
I assume irsay said to keep him a year then do what you think is best. dumb on irsays part if so.
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8-8 or worse next season and 3rd in AFC South. It's obvious to us but who knows what goes on in Jim's head.
I doubt it, even with Pagano this team can be better than that and should be able to be in competition for 1st. If Ballard brings in a decent infusion of talent there is no reason the Colts to be that bad. Which is kind of troubling since a 11 win season and a AFC south title, even with an embarrassing playoff loss will probably buy Pags at least one more year.
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I doubt it, even with Pagano this team can be better than that and should be able to be in competition for 1st. If Ballard brings in a decent infusion of talent there is no reason the Colts to be that bad. Which is kind of troubling since a 11 win season and a AFC south title, even with an embarrassing playoff loss will probably buy Pags at least one more year.
That's the only thing I'm concerned about now. I don't think they'll be any worse than 8-8 and playing a 3rd place schedule will probably lead to 10-6 or better. Maybe omaha is right calling Pagano a master manipulator/bullshit artist.
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That's the only thing I'm concerned about now. I don't think they'll be any worse than 8-8 and playing a 3rd place schedule will probably lead to 10-6 or better. Maybe omaha is right calling Pagano a master manipulator/bullshit artist.
it may not be just him. i imagine his agent plays a huge role in the leaks from last year mid season. those leaks to the media weren't coming from grigson or irsay. and they all made grigson look like an asshole and pagano to just have his hands tied.

and then the question about how the team lacked the talent to be above 8-8 and the dick threw the team and grigson under the bus. a good dude, or a dude that didn't have an agenda, would make the comment that everyone just needs to be better and blah blah blah. pagano made a huge statement for as little as he said.

pagano is a piece of shit doing anything to survive. and for what? he is betting on himself to win big when anyone that has seen his results knows he isn't a good coach.
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Sad thing about all this shit is that Lucks career is being wasted away. Luck will be fortunate if he gets to one Super Bowl with these asshats running the show!!
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Why not plow through some of the growing pains of a new coaching staff this year then?
1) May not be able to get the right coordinators now.
2) It's a bad time to try implementing a new offense when Luck can't throw for 4-5 months.

Look, I would prefer a change now, but I don't think it's a slam dunk error in judgment.
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it may not be just him. i imagine his agent plays a huge role in the leaks from last year mid season. those leaks to the media weren't coming from grigson or irsay. and they all made grigson look like an asshole and pagano to just have his hands tied.

and then the question about how the team lacked the talent to be above 8-8 and the dick threw the team and grigson under the bus. a good dude, or a dude that didn't have an agenda, would make the comment that everyone just needs to be better and blah blah blah. pagano made a huge statement for as little as he said.

pagano is a piece of shit doing anything to survive. and for what? he is betting on himself to win big when anyone that has seen his results knows he isn't a good coach.
This. And it's Irsay's fault for not seeing it and forcing Ballard's hand for 2017.
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it may not be just him. i imagine his agent plays a huge role in the leaks from last year mid season. those leaks to the media weren't coming from grigson or irsay. and they all made grigson look like an asshole and pagano to just have his hands tied.

and then the question about how the team lacked the talent to be above 8-8 and the dick threw the team and grigson under the bus. a good dude, or a dude that didn't have an agenda, would make the comment that everyone just needs to be better and blah blah blah. pagano made a huge statement for as little as he said.

pagano is a piece of shit doing anything to survive. and for what? he is betting on himself to win big when anyone that has seen his results knows he isn't a good coach.
I'm not going to call him a piece of shit, but you may very well be right. Other than Irsay, he's been the only constant. Watching the team come out slow again and again, the lack of discipline and boneheaded in-game decisions are Pagano hallmarks. I started buying into your theory when he threw all the assistants under the bus. Dude's like the bad penny that keeps coming up. The good ol' lovable oaf, spouting clichés and manipulating behind the scenes.
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Well this sucks. Another year wasting Luck under the incompetence of Clappy McWoodchopper. It really puts you in a bind as a fan too, b/c you want the team to do well but if they do then we're stuck with that worthless dipshit and his band of stooges for at least another year
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