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View Poll Results: With the third pick...
Barkley 7 14.29%
Chubb 17 34.69%
Nelson 3 6.12%
Trade back 21 42.86%
Other 1 2.04%
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But he doesn't rush the passer or set the edge like Chubb, either.

It looks like Allen and Mayfield are starting to creep up some draft boards. If we could get the Broncos or Jets to move up to #3, that would be pretty ideal. Get something like #6, #38, a 4th, and still get a very good player like Chubb, Smith, OL. That would give you multiple early 2nds to augment the defense or OL.
The ideal scenario is that the Broncos get so enamored with Allen or Mayfield that they send the #5 pick, the #38 pick, and their 2019 1 for the #3 pick. Browns will likely take Barkley, Williams, or Fitzpatrick at 4 (who cares) which means the Colts could stay put and grab Chubb at 5 if they believe in him, or potentially find another trade in the top 10 and pick up another 2019 1 and STILL grab a playmaker like Smith. I'd be thrilled if the latter happened.
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He's currently ranked higher than Chubb on Matt Miller's big board (#5 overall), so you wouldn't be able to trade back very far. Miller also sees him as more of a WLB in a 4-3 due to his size.
He's the same height and approximately 10 lbs. lighter than Timmons and Shazier. Didn't they both play ILB for the Stillers?

He'll put on 10 lbs. easily as pro. Besides, as has been mentioned previously, we desperately need to improve the defensive team speed.
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He's the same height and approximately 10 lbs. lighter than Timmons and Shazier. Didn't they both play ILB for the Stillers?

He'll put on 10 lbs. easily as pro. Besides, as has been mentioned previously, we desperately need to improve the defensive team speed.
I'd be shocked if he isn't listed at something around 6'1" 240 on whatever roster he's on on opening day next year.
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He's the same height and approximately 10 lbs. lighter than Timmons and Shazier. Didn't they both play ILB for the Stillers?

He'll put on 10 lbs. easily as pro. Besides, as has been mentioned previously, we desperately need to improve the defensive team speed.
Too early to say until he weighs in at the combine (or pro day). I don't trust listed height and weight provided by the colleges.
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The ideal scenario is that the Broncos get so enamored with Allen or Mayfield that they send the #5 pick, the #38 pick, and their 2019 1 for the #3 pick. Browns will likely take Barkley, Williams, or Fitzpatrick at 4 (who cares) which means the Colts could stay put and grab Chubb at 5 if they believe in him, or potentially find another trade in the top 10 and pick up another 2019 1 and STILL grab a playmaker like Smith. I'd be thrilled if the latter happened.
FWIW, the draft value chart shows roughly equal value for #3 and #5 + #37. You'd need to move down closer to #10 to warrant a 2019 1st according to the chart.

Realistically, the only way to drive up the value of #3 for the Broncos is to get multiple teams bidding. If the Browns go QB, then the Broncos don't have to worry about QBs being taken at 3 or 4 unless there's the possibility of a trade with another team.

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FWIW, the draft value chart shows roughly equal value for #3 and #5 + #37. You'd need to move down closer to #10 to warrant a 2019 1st according to the chart.

Realistically, the only way to drive up the value of #3 for the Broncos is to get multiple teams bidding. If the Browns go QB, then the Broncos don't have to worry about QBs being taken at 3 or 4 unless there's the possibility of a trade with another team.
Draft value charts aren't gospel. By the draft value chart, the Redskins NEVER should've given up what they did for RGIII, but they thought he was a franchise QB, so they pulled the trigger. Like I said, it would require Elway becoming heavily enamored with Allen or Mayfield, or one of Rosen or Darnold falling out of the Top 2, but if he wanted an available QB enough, he'd pull the trigger.
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I've already stated my preference to just take Barkely at #3. But, after watching Sony Michel for 2 games, I wouldn't mind him at RB, in whatever round he's graded at ( probably 2nd or 3rd).

I actually like him better than Chubb.
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I've already stated my preference to just take Barkely at #3. But, after watching Sony Michel for 2 games, I wouldn't mind him at RB, in whatever round he's graded at ( probably 2nd or 3rd).

I actually like him better than Chubb.
I do too. I think there might be some others in this class that would be worth taking somewhere in the first three rounds.
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I do too. I think there might be some others in this class that would be worth taking somewhere in the first three rounds.
Please. No.

Frank Gore, who is a top 5 ALL TIME running back in just about every stat has averaged 3.7, 3.9, 3.7 ypc in his 3 seasons with the Colts. Granted, he is 61 years old but anyone watching could see that his effort on the field was that of someone a decade younger than his actual age. He brought it EVERY game and he could not crack 4.0 ypc behind this line.

I don't know that Barry Sanders would average 4.0 ypc behind this offensive line.

Fix the O-Line FIRST before getting a high-pick RB.

Okay, sure. We sign 2 sure-fire OG starters in free agency better than Good & Haeg and draft OT in the 1st round of the draft, then, yeah, draft RB in the 2nd or 3rd round (but after Pass Rush, please).

But, otherwise? No.

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Please. No.

Frank Gore, who is a top 5 ALL TIME running back in just about every stat has averaged 3.7, 3.9, 3.7 ypc in his 3 seasons with the Colts. Granted, he is 61 years old but anyone watching could see that his effort on the field was that of someone a decade younger than his actual age. He brought it EVERY game and he could not crack 4.0 ypc behind this line.

I don't know that Barry Sanders would average 4.0 ypc behind this offensive line.

Fix the O-Line FIRST before getting a high-pick RB.

Okay, sure. We sign 2 sure-fire OG starters in free agency better than Good & Haeg and draft OT in the 1st round of the draft, then, yeah, draft RB in the 2nd or 3rd round (but after Pass Rush, please).

But, otherwise? No.

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Getting a RB in the 3rd round is a great idea. No reason they can’t sign two quality OL and draft two more to go with that RB.
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