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Old 04-12-2022, 09:41 AM
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Why do you guys insist on doing this?

I made no comment on whether what Kap did was as bad as what anyone else did. I made no comment AT ALL about that.

Yet, you want to imply that I’m saying kneeling for the anthem is worse then domestic violence.

It’s REALLY annoying and it makes it look like you have nothing else to offer. That you really have no argument beyond an emotional response.

It’s really really simple-Kap would be in the NFL if he was good enough to be worth the blowback a team would get for signing him.

That’s the bottom line.

You can have whatever opinion you want about whether that blowback is warranted or not.
Its because virtue signaling is all they have. Bottom line is Kaep sucks at QB or he would be playing football. The NFL is a business and if he was good enough to be in the limelight, he would be. Sometimes the answer is so simple that others just can't accept it without injecting their feelz into it, like their feelings are important. News flash, they're not when it comes to the bottom line.
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Old 04-12-2022, 09:51 AM
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Didn’t Kap make a super bowl? So beating women is not as bad as calling out racial injustice. Pretty much what Doyle is saying.
So did a 28-year-old Trent Dilfer with Tampa Bay. The very next season he was backing up Matt Hasselbeck in Seattle. And he remained a backup until he retired at 35. Kaepernick played well for about a season-and-a-half. His success diminished when that loaded SF team started losing pieces and then he got injured.

He could not win the starting job over Blaine Gabbert. Blaine Gabbert then played horribly and Kaepernick got another shot. Team continued to suck with him at QB. The next season, SF was done with both of these guys and brought in Garoppolo.

If the dude actually wanted to play football, that's one thing. The private workout thing shows he didn't really want to play. It was for publicity and when their crew wasn't going to be able to go in their and film their tv commercial, they bailed.

One of the comments on that article was on point:

"Guy complains about being unemployed. Guy decides to skip job interview."
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Old 04-12-2022, 10:22 AM
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It’s really really simple-Kap would be in the NFL if he was good enough to be worth the blowback a team would get for signing him.
Yep you nailed it. Which is exactly the point of the article. In a league starving for QBs a guy that would be at worst a very good backup was essentially blacklisted by a certain demographic for the sin of high lighting racial injustices in this country. Yet that same demographic will gladly cheer for a woman beater or a pussy grabber - as long as they don’t bring up race and are “good enough”. That’s essentially the point of the article- yet the majority of the responses are on how bad Kap is as a QB, which is complete BS compared to what else is in the league. But I don’t expect much acknowledgement of that from most on here - because it makes them feel same and secure to say it isn’t about race, just performance.
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Its because virtue signaling is all they have. Bottom line is Kaep sucks at QB or he would be playing football. The NFL is a business and if he was good enough to be in the limelight, he would be. Sometimes the answer is so simple that others just can't accept it without injecting their feelz into it, like their feelings are important. News flash, they're not when it comes to the bottom line.
Please your pussy is so sensitive you can’t acknowledge race has a bearing in Kap not playing football, yet others are fragile. Fuck off snowflake
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Old 04-12-2022, 10:36 AM
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So did a 28-year-old Trent Dilfer with Tampa Bay. The very next season he was backing up Matt Hasselbeck in Seattle. And he remained a backup until he retired at 35. Kaepernick played well for about a season-and-a-half. His success diminished when that loaded SF team started losing pieces and then he got injured.

He could not win the starting job over Blaine Gabbert. Blaine Gabbert then played horribly and Kaepernick got another shot. Team continued to suck with him at QB. The next season, SF was done with both of these guys and brought in Garoppolo.

If the dude actually wanted to play football, that's one thing. The private workout thing shows he didn't really want to play. It was for publicity and when their crew wasn't going to be able to go in their and film their tv commercial, they bailed.

One of the comments on that article was on point:

"Guy complains about being unemployed. Guy decides to skip job interview."
I don’t think anyone claims Kap is a superstar, but that same Blaine Gabbert is still in the league and he’s never been as good as Kap was. Kap at a minimum would be a high level backup. He’s not for only one reason - he kneeled and certain people didn’t like it. That’s it. The rest is complete BS trying not to acknowledge the truth.

As far as the workout, the fact the NFL was offering a workout (not teams) and they settled with him tells you the reality of the situation. I mean the NFL does that with all backup level QBs right? Yeah, exactly.
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Please your pussy is so sensitive you can’t acknowledge race has a bearing in Kap not playing football, yet others are fragile. Fuck off snowflake
It’s not racist to be offended by someone kneeling for the national anthem.
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I don’t think anyone claims Kap is a superstar, but that same Blaine Gabbert is still in the league and he’s never been as good as Kap was. Kap at a minimum would be a high level backup. He’s not for only one reason - he kneeled and certain people didn’t like it. That’s it. The rest is complete BS trying not to acknowledge the truth.

As far as the workout, the fact the NFL was offering a workout (not teams) and they settled with him tells you the reality of the situation. I mean the NFL does that with all backup level QBs right? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, Gabbert has a desire to play football and accepted his role as a backup. Kaepernick did not. He gained more fame and money and influence as a professional activist than he could've every dreamed making in the NFL.

Why would he want to go be a backup QB somewhere? He didn't want to.
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People seem to misremember that Kaepernick went from the Superbowl to NCF championship to protesting to being cut in back to back to back years. That's not what happened. After the '13 NFCC his play significantly regressed in '14 and then he was so god awful in '15 that he was benched for Blaine Gabbert halfway through the season. How bad do you have to be to get benched for Gabbert? Then the following preseason is when all of the protesting started when BTW he was still a back up to Gabbert.

Another thing that never comes up that IMO has a lot of do with no one signing him is how much money did he want back then and does he want now? We know that he walked away from ~$15M when he opted out of the final year for his contract with SF in '17, so one can presume that he thought he should still be a starter in the league or at least make starter like money. If you have a guy who hasn't been any good for 3 years asking for starter like money then you're probably not going to bring him in to begin with. Then add in the head ache and media shit storm that's going to come in with him, and you're not going to touch him.

As for now, it's been reported that he wanted $20M to play for the AAF. No fucking way even a bad NFL GM will give him that kind of money. Can you imagine how pissed off we'd be if Ballard signed a back QB who hadn't been in the league for 5 years and played well for 8 instead of putting that cap hit towards LT, WR, CB, etc.?
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People seem to misremember that Kaepernick went from the Superbowl to NCF championship to protesting to being cut in back to back to back years. That's not what happened. After the '13 NFCC his play significantly regressed in '14 and then he was so god awful in '15 that he was benched for Blaine Gabbert halfway through the season. How bad do you have to be to get benched for Gabbert? Then the following preseason is when all of the protesting started when BTW he was still a back up to Gabbert.

Another thing that never comes up that IMO has a lot of do with no one signing him is how much money did he want back then and does he want now? We know that he walked away from ~$15M when he opted out of the final year for his contract with SF in '17, so one can presume that he thought he should still be a starter in the league or at least make starter like money. If you have a guy who hasn't been any good for 3 years asking for starter like money then you're probably not going to bring him in to begin with. Then add in the head ache and media shit storm that's going to come in with him, and you're not going to touch him.

As for now, it's been reported that he wanted $20M to play for the AAF. No fucking way even a bad NFL GM will give him that kind of money. Can you imagine how pissed off we'd be if Ballard signed a back QB who hadn't been in the league for 5 years and played well for 8 instead of putting that cap hit towards LT, WR, CB, etc.?
Should have all been very easy for the league to prove how much he sucked and didn’t want to play if he was constantly turning down offers. Instead, in a very high profile case they gave him a very big settlement.
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Right, he blew off the special workout session that the NFL set up SOLELY FOR HIM to showcase his talent to every team in the league. And he did it like an hour before the workout was scheduled to begin.

He either doesn’t actually want to play or he’s so arrogant that he wants the NFL to cater to him, which they aren’t going to do. Nor should they.

Either way, he looks terrible.
Exactly. After reading the article it's obvious Kaepernick didn't actually want to work out in front of all of the NFL teams, he wanted to make it look like the NFL wasn't giving him a chance so he could cry discrimination louder. He had all of these over and above demands that the NFL agreed to meet, and when they unexpectedly did then he makes even more demands to the point of ridiculousness so the NFL bailed. He tried to change the NFL's standard waiver on the fly for fucks sake. No way any of the NFL lawyers would sign off on that.
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