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Old 05-23-2018, 08:06 PM
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I understand why the NFL is averse to this, and honestly, I really don't have a problem with an employer wanting to avoid political shit in the product they are selling. How stupid a huge part of the country disturbs me greatly.
Problem is they kind of started this. They have crafted a nationalistic image, all the flag waving, rah-rah hyperbole that goes on before a game is meant to do that, military flyovers, blasting patriotic rock songs. Even NFL films borrowed a bunch of techniques from Leni Riefenstahl. They sometimes resemble all the propaganda films from WW2. They have engineered this image on purpose over the years, then it backfired when some of the players decided they wanted to protest.

They are a corporation, they care about profit and maintaining an image that continues to support that profit. A bunch of billionaires don't want a bunch of new money millionaires to rock the boat.
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Old 05-23-2018, 08:22 PM
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The problem is this
The NFL fan base is largely Patriotic and Proud of the US...
They see the utter disrespect shown the country by a pack of over paid left wing, lying sumbitches with no real cause
They have the right to kneel at home, not to protest at your place of work.

Owners have a right to not hire a cancer like copacock, an over privileged little punk.

Owners know this idiotic bullshit hurts their revenue and have the right to protect their investment.

The truly unpatriotic part is protesting the flag that lets the mental midgets the place to make millions. Half of which without the NFL and scholarships handed out like candy would be in prison

Want to really protest the US? Move the fuck out... head to Somalia.. Show your true protest with some real skin in the game.
Until you do that you're just a stupid fuck.
I don't blame people for switching them off. They kneel I'm gone this year too.
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Old 05-24-2018, 01:41 AM
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The problem is this
The NFL fan base is largely Patriotic and Proud of the US...
They see the utter disrespect shown the country by a pack of over paid left wing, lying sumbitches with no real cause
They have the right to kneel at home, not to protest at your place of work.

Owners have a right to not hire a cancer like copacock, an over privileged little punk.

Owners know this idiotic bullshit hurts their revenue and have the right to protect their investment.

The truly unpatriotic part is protesting the flag that lets the mental midgets the place to make millions. Half of which without the NFL and scholarships handed out like candy would be in prison

Want to really protest the US? Move the fuck out... head to Somalia.. Show your true protest with some real skin in the game.
Until you do that you're just a stupid fuck.
I don't blame people for switching them off. They kneel I'm gone this year too.
Fucktard.
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I guess I don’t understand patriotism. I thought that even though I disagree with you I’ll fight for your right to say it, if it’s done in a nonviolent way. This, to me, is not a patriotic move by the NFL. It is exactly the opposite of patriotism and furthermore is idiotic in that it brings MORE attention to those protesting. By the way they are not protesting our country but how they feel our country is not living up to it’s ideals. Agree or disagree it is a debate with having in my own opinion
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I guess I don’t understand patriotism. I thought that even though I disagree with you I’ll fight for your right to say it, if it’s done in a nonviolent way. This, to me, is not a patriotic move by the NFL. It is exactly the opposite of patriotism and furthermore is idiotic in that it brings MORE attention to those protesting. By the way they are not protesting our country but how they feel our country is not living up to it’s ideals. Agree or disagree it is a debate with having in my own opinion
Good post

Forced patriotism isn’t patriotic and is not what this country was founded on.
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Next year they they should make the fans stand up and put their phones away or revoke their seat privileges.

I stand (at home even). My opinion changed on this when I went to the Cleveland game last year. A daughter and dad were in front of me and the daughter was on her phone. Should I have talked to Dad about how he needed to teach his daughter the proper respect, no. Once you get there you come to the conclusion that how any individual chooses to respect the anthem is no ones business at all.

And the NFL didn't solve anything. They just moved the protest to the tunnel.
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And the NFL didn't solve anything. They just moved the protest to the tunnel.
Where there are no cameras. A protest that isn’t seen has little to no effect. Of course the media attention is such that it will be a story for the first few games, but it will die down quickly. Unless Trump decides to continue to use it to hurt the nfl I guess. Which is entirely possible.
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I guess I don’t understand patriotism. I thought that even though I disagree with you I’ll fight for your right to say it, if it’s done in a nonviolent way. This, to me, is not a patriotic move by the NFL. It is exactly the opposite of patriotism and furthermore is idiotic in that it brings MORE attention to those protesting. By the way they are not protesting our country but how they feel our country is not living up to it’s ideals. Agree or disagree it is a debate with having in my own opinion
Do it at home... do it on the street.

They hurt the league and their lively hood.. nothing like a pack of over paid snowflakes whining about "unfairness" in the US.

Want to really show your commitment? Leave the US if it's "unfair"

Then I'd listen to your idiot views
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Do it at home... do it on the street.

They hurt the league and their lively hood.. nothing like a pack of over paid snowflakes whining about "unfairness" in the US.

Want to really show your commitment? Leave the US if it's "unfair"

Then I'd listen to your idiot views
I love the snowflake reference from someone so fragile that seeing someone quietly kneel hurts their poor little feelings.
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Do it at home... do it on the street.

They hurt the league and their lively hood.. nothing like a pack of over paid snowflakes whining about "unfairness" in the US.

Want to really show your commitment? Leave the US if it's "unfair"

Then I'd listen to your idiot views
This country is great because we not only allow ‘idiot’ views like mine to be heard, we have a system where change can occur without resorting to violence. Name calling, while allowed and protected, isn’t very effective in changing minds. Your idea that if I disagree with your point of view I should leave the country points to your lack of understanding about what this wonderful country is all about
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