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Old 01-08-2025, 03:11 AM
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Default Culture problems started with Joe Flacco

One of the things that Anthony Richardson needed most desperately was someone to take him aside and teach him how to operate as a professional. That someone turned out to be Sam Ehlinger of all people. I get it, Flacco is a 20 year vet, and he wasn’t brought in to hold Richardson’s hand. He didn’t do it in Philadelphia, didn’t do it with the Jets, the Broncos, or Cleveland.

But, you can’t be a turd floating in the toilet bowl and complain that the bathroom isn’t clean. He is the personification of an I’m in this for myself attitude that cuts against the grain of team building. He has a zero sum mentality in which there are only winners and losers, and everything he does to help a young Quarterback hurts his own chances of his seeing the field.

Ultimately, he might be right, the Colts might have a culture problem; but, ironically enough, the start of the solution might begin with eliminating him from the equation.
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Old 01-08-2025, 06:51 AM
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They knew this when they signed him.

They could’ve brought in anyone to be a mentor, they brought in someone to give him competition and it turned out to bite them in the ass.

I hated the Flacco signing from day 1, but atleast he seemed to unleash Alec Pierces potential
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What a dumb post.
It's not Joe's fault AR sucks.
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I get where you are coming from, but there were signs before then that the culture needed a boost in the right direction.
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Culture problems start, and continue, with Chris Flat Bill Fucko Ballard.

These are his players, this is his reward mediocrity, encourage personal promotion, culture.

FUCK CHRIS BALLARD!
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Old 01-08-2025, 10:17 AM
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If you’re talking about this quote from after the Jags game-

“When you're 8-9, there's probably a ton of spots where you could look and convince yourself that we were almost there," Flacco said. "I don't necessarily think that's the right mindset. I don't think we should be trying to trick ourselves into thinking that we're almost there. I think we should acknowledge, 'Yeah, we are almost there, but we're not there.' I think when you acknowledge that, you free yourself up to get better and take that next step."

I had no problem with that quote. He’s absolutely right.

It’s really bizarre to point a finger at Flacco as part of this team’s culture problem. If anything, he’s the guy these young guys should model themselves after. It’s not his fault AR sucks.

There are probably 40 guys on that team I would blame before I’d blame Joe Flacco.
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Old 01-08-2025, 10:19 AM
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What a dumb post.
It's not Joe's fault AR sucks.
Yeah, this is a weird thread. Very very odd to single out Joe Flacco as someone to blame.
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Old 01-08-2025, 11:44 AM
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So, maybe, in the wee hours of the morning, after listening to the broadcast/podcast/whatevercast of a prominent Indy sports commentator in which he launches into a rant about culture problems and brings up Flacco to support his position, I shouldn’t react so harshly.

Maybe I shouldn’t let guys like Kevin Bowen and Pat McAfee and whoever else get to me. Maybe I should recognize that their job is to drive clicks and generate traffic, and that if peddling garbage does that, then they’ll damn well peddle garbage.

Maybe I should have complained about the messenger, the guy who guy who ticked me off, rather than fixating on the details of the message.

look, I don’t know that a culture problem exists. I don’t know that Jonathan Taylor’s dropping the ball before he reaches the goal line or a silly chest thumping podcast by a couple of Linebackers represents some kind of moral rot that has to be excised.

I apologize to Joe Flacco.
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Flacco was never going to be the right guy to mentor AR, and neither was Minshew...but for different reasons.

Flacco definitely does not add to the culture, because he's a me 1st guy. There's nothing wrong with that if your the best player on the team and at least lead by example.

Minshew had the perfect personality to mentor AR, but his gunslinger style of play cannot be something that rubs off on AR.

I don't know who the perfect backup/competition should be. Any ideas?
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Old 01-09-2025, 10:42 AM
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Ballard doesn’t believe in players mentoring players. He doesn’t believe in veterans helping set the culture in the locker room. He believes that should all be from the coaches. He told us this when he first started cutting vets, pitching a slow rebuild while Luck was still on the roster. It was one of the very first things that soured me on Ballard. If Flacco wasn’t mentoring AR that’s not something you can blame him for, it’s almost guaranteed he wasn’t brought in to do that. Which to me just further highlights how fucking stupid Ballard’s philosophy is and how much he has fucked AR and this team in general.
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