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Stats are for losers, and rarely taken in their proper context.



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Your assertion that "stats are for losers" is nothing short of absurd ...... people who claim that Tom Brady was a much better quarterback than Dan Marino and Peyton Manning often make such hyperbolic statements.

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Your assertion that "stats are for losers" is nothing short of absurd ...... people who claim that Tom Brady was a much better quarterback than Dan Marino and Peyton Manning often make such hyperbolic statements.

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You've done a poor job of explaining your position.



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You want a more detailed explanation? Fine.

You once said that you didn't care if the offense turned the ball over 4 times deep in their own territory ....... that if a defense gives up 34 points in a game, that is poor defense, and that's all that matters. So when it suits you to use statistics, you use them, and when it suits you to say that "statistics are for losers", then you throw them out the window and/or say that they are rarely used in proper context. In fact, your assertion about saying that a defense played poorly based on the amount of points that the opponent scored, regardless of what the surrounding circumstances are completely contradicts what you are saying now ...... if anything, you yourself tend to take statistics out of proper context.


Secondly, and more to the point of my post, what exactly about Jonathan Taylor's statistics today were taken out of context ??? My quote was specifically for today's game (vs. TITANS, 12/22.) Taylor had a great game today, and his statistics from said game don't belie that.

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You want a more detailed explanation? Fine.

You once said that you didn't care if the offense turned the ball over 4 times deep in their own territory ....... that if a defense gives up 34 points in a game, that is poor defense, and that's all that matters. So when it suits you to use statistics, you use them, and when it suits you to say that "statistics are for losers", then you throw them out the window and/or say that they are rarely used in proper context. In fact, your assertion about saying that a defense played poorly based on the amount of points that the opponent scored, regardless of what the surrounding circumstances are completely contradicts what you are saying now ...... if anything, you yourself tend to take statistics out of proper context.


Secondly, and more to the point of my post, what exactly about Jonathan Taylor's statistics today were taken out of context ??? My quote was specifically for today's game (vs. TITANS, 12/22.) Taylor had a great game today, and his statistics from said game don't belie that.

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Taylor was never touched on either of his TD runs...or didn't you watch the game?
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Taylor was never touched on either of his TD runs ...... or didn't you watch the game ???



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I watched the game.

Not getting touched and/or hit does not negate a player's effectiveness ...... in fact, Taylor's speed is part of the reason why he wasn't touched. It's not a fault of the player if he burns the defense so badly and outruns them so that they don't touch him.

Also, in addition to the 2 TD runs, Taylor had 9 runs of at least 5 yards or more while the Colts were building a 38-7 lead before Steichen pulled him out of the game. The Titans then scored 2 TD's to cut the gap to 38-22 before Steichen then reinserted Taylor ...... or did you not watch the game ???

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I watched the game.

Taylor had a great game.

Not getting touched and/or hit does not negate a player's effectiveness ...... in fact, Taylor's speed is part of the reason why he wasn't touched. It's not a fault of the player if he burns the defense so badly and outruns them so that they don't touch him.

Also, in addition to the 2 TD runs, Taylor had 9 runs of at least 5 yards or more while the Colts were building a 38-7 lead before Steichen pulled him out of the game. The Titans then scored 2 TD's to cut the gap to 38-22 before Steichen then reinserted Taylor ...... or did you not watch the game ???

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He should not have been taken out to begin with. That's an entirely different thing and part of my problem with Steichen.

If you think that Taylor is a great RB then just state that. I will wholeheartedly
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That was not a great game by JT. Yeah ...he can run fast. I have seen so many better games by Edgerrin James that would make JT's performance pale in existence.

In fact I would still take Faulk or Addai over TJ, even if Faulk was a prick.
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If you think that Taylor is a great RB, then just state that. I will wholeheartedly disagree.



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I said that Taylor had a great game. Don't move the goalposts.

You quoted me on that post, which again, was specific to that game (vs. TITANS, 12/22.)

I'm also the same person who was all over Taylor last week, starting a thread about his imbecilic play of dropping the ball at the 1/2-yardline, and going so far as to show photos/still-shots which showed exactly what he did on that play.



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My point about players never learning has to do with the fact that the idiocy about dropping the ball at the 1/2-yardline has been going on for decades, and somehow these feeble-minds continue to do it ...... not whether or not once they do it will they ever do it a second time.

So no, Jonathan Taylor DID NOT learn ....... any player who ever did this one single time did not learn from the fact that this nonsense has happened more than 100 times in the last quarter century, yet they still continue to do it.

So, the fact that Taylor did it in the first place is evidence that he (and each and every player who ever did this even one single time) never learn.

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Taylor did not have a great game. The offensive line and blocking of the WR's and TE's had a great game.

On two runs he had 135 yards without being touched! WTF is special about that?

I dislike the dude. He is highly educated and knows the right things to say, for sure. But his toughness and dedication to his craft meter runs Lukewarm.
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I dislike the dude.



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Yes, it's very noticeable.

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Colts RB Jonathan Taylor, Panthers RB Chuba Hubbard Highlight Players of the Week

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