With the third pick....

[rcubed]

What did the Bears give up to move up and get Trebisky?

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by rcubed

What did the Bears give up to move up and get Trebisky?

The Chicago Bears traded up one spot in the draft with the San Francisco 49ers to select quarterback Mitch Trubisky.


Chicago dealt the No. 3 pick, their third round pick (No. 67), one of their fourth round picks (No. 111) and a 2018 third-round pick to move up and take Trubisky, considered one of the draft’s top quarterbacks.

[YDFL Commish]

One thing that may devalue this QB draft class is the potential FA or trade able QB's in 2018.

Alex Smith
Kirk Cousins
Eli Manning
Drew Brees
Jay Cutler
Tyrod Taylor
Teddy Bridgewater
Sam Bradford
Case Keenum

[GoBigBlue88]

The only pick I'm really against at 3 is Nelson. I know Colts have a huge hole at guard, but I've lost track of how often there's a "can't miss" guard like Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper, etc. People act like Nelson is can't-miss because he's a guard.

I'm just categorically against that draft investment for a guard.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

One thing that may devalue this QB draft class is the potential FA or trade able QB's in 2018.

Alex Smith
Kirk Cousins
Eli Manning
Drew Brees
Jay Cutler
Tyrod Taylor
Teddy Bridgewater
Sam Bradford
Case Keenum

Manning and Brees are short-term fixes which would not negate drafting a QB. Cutler is likely a back-up going forward, as could be one or two of those listed here. Smith is on the back 9, too. Further, teams who would lose one of these guys, except MINN, would need to replace them.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

The Texans traded the Browns their 1st round pick (#25) and their 2018 first round pick (which will be #4, but obviously they had no way of knowing that ), for the #12 overall pick last year to grab Deshaun Watson.

The Chiefs traded the Bills their first round pick (#27 overall), their 3rd rounder and their 2018 first rounder to move up to #10 to grab Patrick Mahomes.

I think that guys like Mayfield/Allen will have similar value and that if it's moving up to #3, the asking price should be, at a minimum, this year's #1 (and it better be a first half selection) and next years' as well as another round pick in 2018.

I agree with you that guys like Mayfield/Allen aren't going to grade out as being "Trade The Franchise Worthy", but I do think that it's possible that if two QB's go one-two and there's a bunch of other QB-starved teams that it's possible a run on QB's to open the draft could cause a team to desperately trade the Colts a healthy sum.

I would feel significantly more confident in being able to command that type of package with the 2nd pick. Ugh.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88

The only pick I'm really against at 3 is Nelson. I know Colts have a huge hole at guard, but I've lost track of how often there's a "can't miss" guard like Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper, etc. People act like Nelson is can't-miss because he's a guard.

I'm just categorically against that draft investment for a guard.

I agree

Even if you have no holes on the roster, you don't take a guard that high

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

The Chicago Bears traded up one spot in the draft with the San Francisco 49ers to select quarterback Mitch Trubisky.


Chicago dealt the No. 3 pick, their third round pick (No. 67), one of their fourth round picks (No. 111) and a 2018 third-round pick to move up and take Trubisky, considered one of the draft’s top quarterbacks.

Did they swap first round picks as well in that deal?

I don't think that type of deal would be worth it to trade down.

I'd only trade down for swapping first round picks in the top 10 and at least one other first round pick thrown into the mix.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Manning and Brees are short-term fixes which would not negate drafting a QB. Cutler is likely a back-up going forward, as could be one or two of those listed here. Smith is on the back 9, too. Further, teams who would lose one of these guys, except MINN, would need to replace them.

Elway may be looking for a short term fix in Denver, as the window is closing on that roster to compete for another championship.

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Did they swap first round picks as well in that deal?

Yes, they did the 3rd pick for the second plus their third round pick (No. 67), one of their fourth round picks (No. 111) and a 2018 third-round pick to move up...

I would do that everyday and twice on draft day