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1. We have needs at RB2 and TE3 that probably need to come from the draft. Sure, 4th and 5th round picks in my book but the draft cannot be "all defense" IMO. 2. Gil Brandt from NFL.com just released his "Top 150" prospects list and he has Lamp as the #41 overall prospect. Walter Football has Lamp at #51 overall. Matt Miller at Bleacher Reports has him at #47 overall. DraftTek has Lamp at #30 overall. CBSportsline has Lamp at #29 overall. Sporting News does have him ranked #21 overall which is not much of a reach. My point being is that while Lamp appears "safe" and is at a position of potential need (I disagree; whoever wins of Haeg, Good or Schwenke will be good), he appears to be not terribly good value at 1-15. For fun, I decided to go back and look at the 2016 "Big Boards" to see where Ryan Kelly ranked. Gil Brandt has him ranked at #25. Walter Football had him ranked at #27. Matt Miller had him ranked #20. CBSportsline had him ranked #25. Sports Illustrated did have him ranked #51. What do they know? Anyway, my point is that Kelly was much more a "consensus" first round talent than Lamp is. Who knows how the Colts have Lamp ranked but just blindly deciding to take him in the first round at 1-15 seems a bit of a stretch. Cheers,
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Not a priority, I would agree, IMO. |
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Problem solved. Im beginning to think we're in no mans land at 15 anyways. Btw, we may have Lamp ranked higher on our draft boards like you mentioned. That Alabama tape doesnt lie. Last edited by natagu23; 04-18-2017 at 08:59 AM. |
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So, some spare time on my hands......
Gil Brandt writes this in his "Top 150 Draft Prospects" article this week on NFL.com Quote:
I will not bore you with the spreadsheets but I looked at his last six years and analyzed the top 100 prospects. I noted where he said they ranked and where they ended up being drafted. Long story short: -- Brandt is accurate in picking a players draft slot within 10 slots either way 75% of the time. That means that if he ranks a guy as the #25 ranked guys, that 3 out of 4 times, that guy will be selected between 16 and 34. This is pretty easy to do at the top of the draft but get progressively harder when down in the 30s and 40s much less the 70s and 80s; however, Brandt still does a good job done there. That 75% number accounts for a lot of factors, most notably player injury and QB jumping, that lower that percentage. I thought that was a pretty accurate percentage over six draft classes. So, for our purposes, what does that mean? Players within 10 spots of our 2017 draft picks: 1-15 (#15): 06. Malik Hooker - S, Ohio State 07. Jonathan Allen - DT, Alabama 08. Mitchell Trubisky - QB, North Carolina 09. Deshaun Watson - QB, Clemson 10. John Ross - WR, Washington 11. Gareon Conley - CB, Ohio State 12. Christian McCaffrey - RB, Stanford 13. O.J. Howard - TE, Alabama 14. Reuben Foster - LB, Alabama 15. Cam Robinson - OT, Alabama 16. Derek Barnett - DE, Tennessee 17. Charles Harris - DE, Missouri 18. Parick Mahomes - QB, Texas Tech 19. Ryan Ramczyk - OT, Wisconsin 20. Jarrad Davis - LB, Florida 21. Jabrill Peppers - S, Michigan 22. Garett Bolles - OT, Utah 23. Mike Williams - WR, Clemson 24. Takkarist McKinley - DE, UCLA Foster and Davis at ILB. Barnett, Harris or McKinley at OLB. Conley at CB. Peppers at S. We are going to get an impact defender. 2-14 (#46): 37. Haason Reddick - DE, Temple 38. Marcus Williams - S, Utah 39. Josh Jones - S, N.C. State 40. Jordan Willis - DE, Kansas St. 41. Forrest Lamp - G, Western Kentucky 42. Taco Charlton - DE, Michigan 43. Marlon Humphrey - CB, Alabama 44. Marcus Maye - S, Florida 45. Malik McDowell - DT, Michigan State 46. Zach Cunningham - LB, Vanderbilt 47. Tim Williams - LB, Alabama 48. Chris Wormley - DE, Michigan 49. Ryan Anderson - OLB, Alabama 50. Dan Feeney - OL, Indiana 51. Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State 52. Pat Elflein, C, Ohio State 53. Justin Evans, S, Texas A&M 54. Ethan Pocic, C, LSU 55. Budda Baker, S, Washington Humphrey at CB, Cunningham at ILB, Charlton, Williams, Wormley, Anderson at OLB. Baker at S. All good choices. 3-16 (#80): 71. Dalvin Tomlinson, DT, Alabama 72. Raekwon McMillan, LB, Ohio State 73. Jordan Leggett, TE, Clemson 74. Dawuane Smoot, DE, Illinois 75. Josh Malone, WR, Tennessee 76. Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn 77. Duke Riley, OLB, LSU 78. Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee 79. Sidney Jones, CB, Washington 80. Brian Hill, RB, Wyoming 81. Davis Webb, QB, Cal 82. Joshua Dobbs, QB, Tennessee 83. Isaac Asiata, OG, Utah 84. Cam Sutton, CB, Tennessee 85. Zach Banner, OT, USC 86. Jeremy Sprinkle, TE, Arkansas 87. D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas 88. Josh Reynolds, WR, Texas A&M 89. Vince Biegel, LB, Wisconsin Some solid CBs in Jones and Sutton. I don't hate Duke Riley at OLB but I don't think he is much impact. McMillian at ILB is solid. Lots of, ehhhhhh in this list. 4-15 (#121): 112. Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami 113. John Johnson, S, Boston College 114. Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU 115. KD Cannon, WR, Baylor 116. Kenny Golladay, WR, Northern Illinois 117. Jake Butt, TE, Michigan 118. Danny Isidora, OG, Miami 119. Adam Shaheen, TE, Ashland 120. Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson 121. Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson 122. Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn 123. Carlos Henderson, WR-KR, Louisiana Tech 124. Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan 125. Anthony Walker, LB, Northwestern 126. Tarell Basham, DE, Ohio 127. Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky 128. Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown St. 129. Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego St. 130. Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy Tankersley would be fantastic to get in the 4th. I like Tarell Basham as a developmental pass rusher. Pumphrey would be a pretty good RB2 in the 4th. I am sure some of the D-Line guys could help out. 4-31 (#137): 126. Tarell Basham, DE, Ohio 127. Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky 128. Derek Rivers, DE, Youngstown St. 129. Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego St. 130. Antonio Garcia, OT, Troy 131. Howard Wilson, CB, Houston 132. Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo 133. Jehu Chesson, WR, Michigan 134. Jessamen Dunker, OG, Tennessee St. 135. Fadol Brown, DE, Ole Miss 136. Collin Buchanan, OT, Miami (Ohio) 137. Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M 138. Larry Ogunjobi, OT, UNC-Charlotte 139. Jonnu Smith, TE, Florida International 140. Shelton Gibson, WR, West Virginia 141. Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise St. 142. Mack Hollins, WR, North Carolina 143. Tarik Cohen, RB-KR, North Carolina A&T 144. Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota 145. Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State 146. Brandon Barnes, TE, Alabama St. 4-38 (#144): 135. Fadol Brown, DE, Ole Miss 136. Collin Buchanan, OT, Miami (Ohio) 137. Avery Gennesy, OT, Texas A&M 138. Larry Ogunjobi, OT, UNC-Charlotte 139. Jonnu Smith, TE, Florida International 140. Shelton Gibson, WR, West Virginia 141. Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise St. 142. Mack Hollins, WR, North Carolina 143. Tarik Cohen, RB-KR, North Carolina A&T 144. Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota 145. Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State 146. Brandon Barnes, TE, Alabama St. 147. Ben Gedeon, ILB, Michigan 148. Ahkello Witherspoon, CB, Colorado 149. C.J. Beathard, QB, Iowa 150. Deatrich Wise, DE, Arkansas Witherspoon is one of my "sleepers" at CB; I like his game. Jonnu Smith is an ideal TE3; he needs some technique coaching but has great physical traits and a lot of college experience. Some of the RB options are solid if we have not selected one by now. Anyway, just some more food for thought as to the candidates whom might be available with our top picks. From a guy who gets those lists 75% right. Cheers,
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You are good with Williams being one of those options if either Doyle or Swoope get hurt? Or HAVING to play 3WR sets all the time? Personally, I would want a better option than Brandon Williams playing depth TE. Cheers,
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I do tend to believe that the relative talent dropoff and its implications that if we stay talent depleted at certain positions on defense would hurt us more than having Brandon Williams as TE3. |
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On those lists, give me: 15) Reuben Foster 46) Haason Reddick 80) Raekwon McMillan/Carl Lawson 121) Cordrea Tankersley 137) Jeremy McNichols And I'm happy. Don't really care what the last one is at that point. |
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Only quibble is that they should take Sidney Jones at 3.15. Can't pass up a 1st round talent there.
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