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Old 02-12-2022, 02:38 AM
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He thinks complacency set in
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Leonard seems to be one of the most vocal players, but he’s a talker not a leader. There is a huge difference.
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Leonard seems to be one of the most vocal players, but he’s a talker not a leader. There is a huge difference.
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Old 02-13-2022, 07:18 PM
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How would you know?
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Exactly JAFF, great post, awesome, how the fuck would you know? I know the answer though, he refused to take the jab, so therefore he is not a leader according to some.
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As has been said - a combination of his own words and, yes, his vax stance. I think his comments on Walker are self explanatory. You are free to disagree on his vax stance being a lack of leadership, but to me it obviously was. Being vaxed was a competitive advantage. The rules were designed to make it so. Not sure how anyone can argue otherwise. A leader models the way to win and helps get others to follow suit through actions and, often, words. Leonard did the opposite of that. His actions and words promoted a disadvantage. Was it coincidence the team fell apart once it was hit with Covid? Maybe. But a few of us said the teams vax status demonstrated a lack of commitment and leadership. Watching this team at the end of the season it sure seems like that was the case. Teams with good leadership don’t fall apart like that, they don’t become complacent and miss the playoffs. It wasn’t one bad game, they lost two games they should have won.

I’ll also add this interview reinforces my opinion. Every time he talks about the negative stuff of being complacent he says “guys” or “people”, not “we”. “Guys” start believing we can’t lose. “People” get a little complacent. He hopes “guys” use the loss as motivation and “guys” learn that nothing is given to you. Very few “we’s” and never in the right context. The way I hear that is Leonard wasn’t part of the issue - it was the other “guys”. Funny, I don’t really remember him playing well in those two games. Regardless his words admit there was a leadership problem and he is supposed to be one of the leaders. I’m sure it was the other “guys” though, just don’t include him in the group.

The funny thing is if I had made the same comment about Wentz it would have received a ton of likes and a bunch of agreement. You wouldn’t question how I would know. But because it’s Leonard and not Wentz the defenders come out in force. Leonard is a great player, but that doesn’t make him a leader.
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Leonard seems to be one of the most vocal players, but he’s a talker not a leader. There is a huge difference.
I call Bullshit on this. Like JAFF stated how the hell do you know that he is not a leader? He has his beliefs and didn't back off from them. in my opinion, that is a fucking leader whether you like it or not.
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I call Bullshit on this. Like JAFF stated how the hell do you know that he is not a leader? He has his beliefs and didn't back off from them. in my opinion, that is a fucking leader whether you like it or not.
He is a very vocal anti-vax idiot. Case closed.
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