Culture problems started with Joe Flacco

[Kray007]

One of the things that Anthony Richardson needed most desperately was someone to take him aside and teach him how to operate as a professional. That someone turned out to be Sam Ehlinger of all people. I get it, Flacco is a 20 year vet, and he wasn’t brought in to hold Richardson’s hand. He didn’t do it in Philadelphia, didn’t do it with the Jets, the Broncos, or Cleveland.

But, you can’t be a turd floating in the toilet bowl and complain that the bathroom isn’t clean. He is the personification of an I’m in this for myself attitude that cuts against the grain of team building. He has a zero sum mentality in which there are only winners and losers, and everything he does to help a young Quarterback hurts his own chances of his seeing the field.

Ultimately, he might be right, the Colts might have a culture problem; but, ironically enough, the start of the solution might begin with eliminating him from the equation.

[apballin]

They knew this when they signed him.

They could’ve brought in anyone to be a mentor, they brought in someone to give him competition and it turned out to bite them in the ass.

I hated the Flacco signing from day 1, but atleast he seemed to unleash Alec Pierces potential

[Brylok]

What a dumb post.
It's not Joe's fault AR sucks.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Brylok

What a dumb post.
It's not Joe's fault AR sucks.

Yeah, this is a weird thread. Very very odd to single out Joe Flacco as someone to blame.

[Kray007]

So, maybe, in the wee hours of the morning, after listening to the broadcast/podcast/whatevercast of a prominent Indy sports commentator in which he launches into a rant about culture problems and brings up Flacco to support his position, I shouldn’t react so harshly.

Maybe I shouldn’t let guys like Kevin Bowen and Pat McAfee and whoever else get to me. Maybe I should recognize that their job is to drive clicks and generate traffic, and that if peddling garbage does that, then they’ll damn well peddle garbage.

Maybe I should have complained about the messenger, the guy who guy who ticked me off, rather than fixating on the details of the message.

look, I don’t know that a culture problem exists. I don’t know that Jonathan Taylor’s dropping the ball before he reaches the goal line or a silly chest thumping podcast by a couple of Linebackers represents some kind of moral rot that has to be excised.

I apologize to Joe Flacco.

[YDFL Commish]

Flacco was never going to be the right guy to mentor AR, and neither was Minshew...but for different reasons.

Flacco definitely does not add to the culture, because he's a me 1st guy. There's nothing wrong with that if your the best player on the team and at least lead by example.

Minshew had the perfect personality to mentor AR, but his gunslinger style of play cannot be something that rubs off on AR.

I don't know who the perfect backup/competition should be. Any ideas?

[Racehorse]

I get where you are coming from, but there were signs before then that the culture needed a boost in the right direction.

[ChoppedWood]

Culture problems start, and continue, with Chris Flat Bill Fucko Ballard.

These are his players, this is his reward mediocrity, encourage personal promotion, culture.

FUCK CHRIS BALLARD!

[Hoopsdoc]

If you’re talking about this quote from after the Jags game-

“When you're 8-9, there's probably a ton of spots where you could look and convince yourself that we were almost there," Flacco said. "I don't necessarily think that's the right mindset. I don't think we should be trying to trick ourselves into thinking that we're almost there. I think we should acknowledge, 'Yeah, we are almost there, but we're not there.' I think when you acknowledge that, you free yourself up to get better and take that next step."

I had no problem with that quote. He’s absolutely right.

It’s really bizarre to point a finger at Flacco as part of this team’s culture problem. If anything, he’s the guy these young guys should model themselves after. It’s not his fault AR sucks.

There are probably 40 guys on that team I would blame before I’d blame Joe Flacco.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Kray007

One of the things that Anthony Richardson needed most desperately was someone to take him aside and teach him how to operate as a professional. That someone turned out to be Sam Ehlinger of all people. I get it, Flacco is a 20 year vet, and he wasn’t brought in to hold Richardson’s hand. He didn’t do it in Philadelphia, didn’t do it with the Jets, the Broncos, or Cleveland.

But, you can’t be a turd floating in the toilet bowl and complain that the bathroom isn’t clean. He is the personification of an I’m in this for myself attitude that cuts against the grain of team building. He has a zero sum mentality in which there are only winners and losers, and everything he does to help a young Quarterback hurts his own chances of his seeing the field.

Ultimately, he might be right, the Colts might have a culture problem; but, ironically enough, the start of the solution might begin with eliminating him from the equation.

Flacco has been honest about this from the start. I’m not a fan of his attitude though. He’s the anti hasselbeck and won’t be back. But he was brought in competent backup that could win games. He sucked at that.

I actually don’t think there is a culture problem. I think there are a lot of strong good voices on this team. I think there is a QB problem. AR is 22 and the youngest QB in the league for the second year in a row. I don’t think anyone has sat him down and taught him how to be a pro and a QB. Not in college certainly. That Florida program is crap. But I do like AR’s response to his benching. And he did improve after the benching. I want to see how he does after a full offseason. I dont think ppl get just how young he is. I still want to try and develop him because the AFC is ridiculously tough. You are not going to get through it with average. Right now AR is the best shot at a star QB.