POLL- Lose to Jags, should Frank be fired?

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Has Irsay ever fired a coach mid season?

Don't think so, but really, if they crap the bed this weekend, in consideration of the above, does he have any choice? At some point the point the finger in every direction but your own strategy, when you are the constant, fails regardless of how nice a guy you are. Irsay HAS to be approaching that point, has to be.

[Chromeburn]

Don’t fire mid season. You’ll just tank your teams chances. Ryan was meant to several years, offense is going to take time to go. Hire a new coach and you reset everything.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Don’t fire mid season. You’ll just tank your teams chances. Ryan was meant to several years, offense is going to take time to go. Hire a new coach and you reset everything.

But the Colts didn't win the first game 77-0, heads should roll for that! Anything less than complete dominance in every game is totally unacceptable. It's not like the other teams have players, coaching staffs, and front offices that gets paid, only the Colts have that.

[TheMugwump]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I also thought they should have pursued Trubisky, but when they got Ryan I thought maybe that was the better option. I still think it might be but Trubisky could have potentially have been the long term solution. Time will tell!

I took the ChaosTheory post as a joke.

No way would I take Mitchell Trubisky over Matt Ryan, in any universe, at any time.

If this team doesn't make the playoffs, it won't be because of Ryan's play, or Reich's coaching, or the kicking game.

The only reason they miss the playoffs is injuries (knocking wood as I type this). If they stay mostly healthy, they walk to a playoff spot.

And I am a little surprised at the extreme over-reactions to a first-week loss in here. Yeah, it's been ten billion years since this team won an opener. They are tied for first in the division in spite of that, so last week and all the mistakes on the field and on the sidelines means almost nothing. Add to that the trend of Reich-coached teams to improve consistently as the season moves forward, and there is a ton to be optimistic about here.

Plus, Carson Wentz is no longer the QB.

Guys, the sky is not falling. This is by far the best team in the AFC South.

R-E-L-A-X

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by TheMugwump

I took the ChaosTheory post as a joke.

That's true. Sorry, Cletus. I was making the point that impulsive thinking leads to bad takes.

To address it seriously... a coaching change after two weeks is a complete non-starter in my eyes. It's completely unrealistic given the patient nature of the FO anyway because it would be rash and unwarranted.

As for whether they should consider firing Reich if the fail to make the playoffs... I mean, ok, sure they should. But how enlightening is that? If Andy Reid failed to lead the Chiefs to the playoffs this year, wouldn't people say the same thing?

Goes for any team coming in with expectations this year. Just doesn't strike me as a meaningful stance to take.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

But the Colts didn't win the first game 77-0, heads should roll for that! Anything less than complete dominance in every game is totally unacceptable. It's not like the other teams have players, coaching staffs, and front offices that gets paid, only the Colts have that.

So you think it's perfectly acceptable for Frank's teams to be 0-4-1 in week one against bad teams (2 of which are REALLY bad)?

Is it also perfectly acceptable for his teams to lose to the Jagoffs every year like clockwork despite the fact that they've been the worst team in the league in that span and have beaten a whopping 11 teams other than us during that time (TBH I'm pretty surprised it's that high)?

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

That's true. Sorry, Cletus. I was making the point that impulsive thinking leads to bad takes.

To address it seriously... a coaching change after two weeks is a complete non-starter in my eyes. It's completely unrealistic given the patient nature of the FO anyway because it would be rash and unwarranted.

As for whether they should consider firing Reich if the fail to make the playoffs... I mean, ok, sure they should. But how enlightening is that? If Andy Reid failed to lead the Chiefs to the playoffs this year, wouldn't people say the same thing?

Goes for any team coming in with expectations this year. Just doesn't strike me as a meaningful stance to take.

What a ricockulous comparison. If Reich had anywhere near Reid's career success (or even Reid's success his first 4 years in the league) we wouldn't be talking about getting rid of him.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by TheMugwump

I took the ChaosTheory post as a joke.

No way would I take Mitchell Trubisky over Matt Ryan, in any universe, at any time.

If this team doesn't make the playoffs, it won't be because of Ryan's play, or Reich's coaching, or the kicking game.

The only reason they miss the playoffs is injuries (knocking wood as I type this). If they stay mostly healthy, they walk to a playoff spot.

And I am a little surprised at the extreme over-reactions to a first-week loss in here. Yeah, it's been ten billion years since this team won an opener. They are tied for first in the division in spite of that, so last week and all the mistakes on the field and on the sidelines means almost nothing. Add to that the trend of Reich-coached teams to improve consistently as the season moves forward, and there is a ton to be optimistic about here.

Plus, Carson Wentz is no longer the QB.

Guys, the sky is not falling. This is by far the best team in the AFC South.

R-E-L-A-X

Maybe on paper. They sure as shit didn't look anything like that on Sunday.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by JAFF

I thought it was bad, but holy shit.

Yeah man, here are there records:

'18 Bungles - 6-10
'19 Chargers 5-11 (to be fair Frank should probably get a pass on this one)
'20 Jagoffs - 1-15 (to be fair Frank's pass for '19 should be taken away for this one)
'21 Seahawks - 7-10
'22 Texicans- TBD but we all know that they'll end up having a really bad record. Maybe even '20 Jagoffs bad.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Yeah man, here are there records:

'18 Bungles - 6-10
'19 Chargers 5-11 (to be fair Frank should probably get a pass on this one)
'20 Jagoffs - 1-15 (to be fair Frank's pass for '19 should be taken away for this one)
'21 Seahawks - 7-10
'22 Texicans- TBD but we all know that they'll end up having a really bad record. Maybe even '20 Jagoffs bad.

But somehow, this guy is still regarded as a good coach... he's a turd.