The Colts hir Chris Ballard as GM

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by FatDT

Why not plow through some of the growing pains of a new coaching staff this year then?

Also, what if this team gets to 10 wins (not unrealistic at all with a non-idiot providing another idiot with talent) and we suddenly have this unfounded renewed confidence in Pagano?

I'm not convinced that this would be a lameduck year in which Ballard could just fire Pagano afterwards. We very possibly could go back to being 11-5 but seriously flawed and unfit to make it to the Super Bowl (2012-2014), and Pagano would survive based off of that.

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Also, what if this team gets to 10 wins (not unrealistic at all with a non-idiot providing another idiot with talent) and we suddenly have this unfounded renewed confidence in Pagano?

I'm not convinced that this would be a lameduck year in which Ballard could just fire Pagano afterwards. We very possibly could go back to being 11-5 but seriously flawed and unfit to make it to the Super Bowl (2012-2014), and Pagano would survive based off of that.

Exactly. The talent level was high enough that it masked Pagano's coaching deficiencies some. The talent level going down revealed the truth, just as it was revealed how overmatched he is whenever we got into one of those blowouts like against the Rams a few years ago, or when we played the Pats in the playoffs.

[Indiana V2]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Also, what if this team gets to 10 wins (not unrealistic at all with a non-idiot providing another idiot with talent) and we suddenly have this unfounded renewed confidence in Pagano?

I'm not convinced that this would be a lameduck year in which Ballard could just fire Pagano afterwards. We very possibly could go back to being 11-5 but seriously flawed and unfit to make it to the Super Bowl (2012-2014), and Pagano would survive based off of that.

I think that is what Irsay is banking on.

[Puck]

They should hire Toub and make him Associate HC so he can help with decision making and move him into the permanent position as soon as Pags calls another dumb play

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by Puck

They should hire Toub and make him Associate HC so he can help with decision making and move him into the permanent position as soon as Pags calls another dumb play

That would be a great idea ...

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by Puck

They should hire Toub and make him Associate HC so he can help with decision making and move him into the permanent position as soon as Pags calls another dumb play

That's creating another toxic situation. Could you effectively do your job with a gun to your head? Having the obvious new HC in the building isn't fair to Pagano, however much he sucks. Just fire the guy and be done with it. Stop dicking around, Irsay!

[Puck]

Originally Posted by FatDT

That's creating another toxic situation. Could you effectively do your job with a gun to your head? Having the obvious new HC in the building isn't fair to Pagano, however much he sucks. Just fire the guy and be done with it. Stop dicking around, Irsay!

Nope So maybe Pags will quite... not working to get rid of him any other way

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by Puck

Nope So maybe Pags will quite... not working to get rid of him any other way

Why would he quit when he's getting paid? I wonder what his contract stipulations are regarding payment if he's fired or if he just up and quit. Isn't he under contract for 3 more years anyway?

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Brylok

Why would he quit when he's getting paid? I wonder what his contract stipulations are regarding payment if he's fired or if he just up and quit. Isn't he under contract for 3 more years anyway?

True

[Coltsalr]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 31m31 minutes ago
A presser today, but Colts GM Chris Ballard intends to keep HC Chuck Pagano for 2017, then re-evaluate for 2018, per league sources.

I mean, maybe since he's new, he doesn't feel like his first order of business should be firing the head coach, regardless of how terrible he may be?