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Old 08-25-2019, 03:23 PM
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This is where I disagree

he is very much physically still able to play the game

This is not some career ending ankle or calf injury

he just doesn't want to play though it or rehab anymore no more trying

That is quitting. Call it emotional toll or whatever, but its quitting.
Wow, that's egotistical.

I'm in my 60's and had to have a stint put in my heart. They put me on an anticoagulant, so I wouldn't have another blockage. For 18 months, I was a walking bruise. I was holding my grandson on my lap and I got bruises from him. I felt like crap for 18 months, until I was taken off of them.

He's 29 and he's

1. lacerated his liver
2. torn his labrum
3. nerve damage in his leg
4. God knows how many sprains, bruises, cuts and fill in the blank.

He's not a coward. He just can't get healed. He needs to let his body heal and hopefully not need a joint replacement before he is 45.
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Old 08-25-2019, 03:27 PM
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This is where I disagree

he is very much physically still able to play the game

This is not some career ending ankle or calf injury

he just doesn't want to play though it or rehab anymore no more trying

That is quitting. Call it emotional toll or whatever, but its quitting.
And you know this how??
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Old 08-25-2019, 04:21 PM
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This is where I disagree

he is very much physically still able to play the game

This is not some career ending ankle or calf injury

he just doesn't want to play though it or rehab anymore no more trying

That is quitting. Call it emotional toll or whatever, but its quitting.
Two weeks before the season is quitting. After a season is retirement.

It's the circumstances. If they were 5-11 last year I don't think anyone would be bothered by it.
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Old 08-25-2019, 04:30 PM
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Wow, that's egotistical.

I'm in my 60's and had to have a stint put in my heart. They put me on an anticoagulant, so I wouldn't have another blockage. For 18 months, I was a walking bruise. I was holding my grandson on my lap and I got bruises from him. I felt like crap for 18 months, until I was taken off of them.

He's 29 and he's

1. lacerated his liver
2. torn his labrum
3. nerve damage in his leg
4. God knows how many sprains, bruises, cuts and fill in the blank.

He's not a coward. He just can't get healed. He needs to let his body heal and hopefully not need a joint replacement before he is 45.


He lacerated his spleen, not his liver, and that has long since healed

Same with the torn labrum, its healed and has not since been mentioned as a problem in a year

He has an ankle calf muscle or tendon injury, not nerve damage. There is no indication he can't recover from this injury, he just has no desire to try to do so.

Its not that he CANT get healed, he is no longer interested in trying to get healed to keep playing

So be it, but call that what it is, quitting.

The is not so injured he can no longer play or that his life is in danger in any way, no indication of any permanent long term damage. He just is done trying to work through injuries.

He can make that choose, but it doesn't change what this is, which is quitting
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Old 08-25-2019, 04:33 PM
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And you know this how??
Based on everything we have heard from everyone that reports on this. Not one person has reported that he has an injury to his ankle or calf that is permanent or that cannot be healed. HE did not even make that claim when he retired. If that is true, he should have said so, no reason not to say so at his point. Why Wouldn't he say it if that were the case? The colts and reporters have never made that claim. Not one person.

Do you know differently? I am going based on everything that has been reported to date
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Yep, over it. My team is on the field.
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Old 08-25-2019, 04:38 PM
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He is quitting. Because of injuries. He has every right to do this. The way he chose to do it; two weeks before the start of the season, during a pre season game, after that bullcrap of giving everyone hope by working out before the game a week ago (if he didn't realize that he gave everyone hope when he did it he sure did after the press got a hold of it) taking the last 24 million he could get leaves a lot to be desired.
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Nope, not over it. Might be getting over the Colts and the NFL though. We'll see.
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Old 08-25-2019, 07:06 PM
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For myself, it's not so much whether or not I am over it as it is that I don't have much choice but to be over it.

I wasn't "over" Peyton Manning missing the entire 2011 season while I was watching the team fall haplessly to a 2-14 record between the months of September and December, but what else was there to do besides continue to root for the over-matched team that was wearing the blue-and-white uniforms ???


Bert Jones missing most of the 1978 and 1979 seasons with a shoulder separation, Aaron Bailey just barely missing the winning catch on the final play of the 1995 AFC Championship game, Peyton Manning missing the entire 2011 season all hurt, as does Andrew Luck's sudden and unexpected retirement here in 2019 ........ but all of that hurt goes with the territory of being an ardent fan of a team.

So, I'm not over it ........ I'm just dealing with it the best that I can from this point onward


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Two weeks before the season is quitting. After a season is retirement.

It's the circumstances. If they were 5-11 last year I don't think anyone would be bothered by it.

So going out there and failing for 2-3 games would be better than getting out when you KNOW you can't do what you once were really good at?
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