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Old 09-17-2017, 06:27 PM
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1. Pagano still sucks.

2. Constanzo is awful.

3. Moncrief is not making big money after this season.

4. Hilton is overrated.

5. Brissett is better than Tolzien.

6. The young DB's need more experience, but are trending upward.

7. Colts should have hired Arians.

8. Pagano still sucks.
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A few from me.

1. Brissett did better than I thought he would. I was mostly impressed. He has some real arm talent and can put the ball anywhere on the field. Every throw is open to him, unlike Tolzien. He had impressive placement on some. Mobile, but more importantly, strong ... you need to shed some tackles behind Colts OL. But the reason he's a QB2 is that he just doesn't see the field very well. Don't see him going through reads like Luck would. He's still new, so that will improve, but I doubt it improves much. Think he'll prove limited by his tendency to lock on, but still a high-end QB2 ... which is the point.

2. I'm not going to criticize Chud too much for the gameplan today; he had one hand tied behind his back. But it would be nice to design something unique for Marlon Mack.

3. The WRs on this team are just so damn soft. I'm tired of it. I think it stems from lack of leadership. No coincidence, this group has been soft as butter ever since Reggie Wayne left.

4. I'm really encouraged by Quincy Wilson and Malik Hooker. Every time Wilson gets beat, he was at least in position to make a play but either didn't locate the ball or just missed. He's always in the right place. You don't see him trailing 10 yards like Greg Toler, or just playing off the ball 10 yards because he's afraid he'll give up a big play.

Hooker looked good today and the two actually combined on a few PBUs, which I liked. But I think Hooker is actually playing TOO deep. Colts need more help in the intermediate depth than 20+ yards downfield, IMO.

I think this is where having any one of Butler or Geathers back would really help, though.

5. Only real issue with the front seven today is that ILBs are still the glaring weakness we know them to be. They just suck, if we're being honest. And problem is, Colts need to address LT and pass-rusher too much in draft to really draft a super dynamic ILB, so we may be looking at another year of this.

6. Kenny Moore shouldn't be on this team tomorrow. If accountability really matters, he was at fault for 2 of the 3 biggest Colts mistakes of the game -- his terrible zone drop depth on 3rd & 20, and his fair catch interference. Also he just sucks, so there's that.

7. I really like Al Woods. I'm afraid he's at his peak and it only goes downhill from here, but it's nice to have a fat guy you just don't fuck with in the middle for once.

8. That was the most consistent pressure the Colts have generated since before Robert Mathis' Achilles injury. I expect pressure to be inconsistent, but they finally have some nasty players who can rock OL and make things interesting. Still don't have a lot of speed or athleticism, though, unless Basham comes on later.

9. Just me, or does Quan Bray look slower/worse than last year? Granted, I think any returner is set up to fail for this team because they can't execute basic blocking assignments ever, but I don't see why Bray won out over Natson based on today's game.
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A few from me.

1. Brissett did better than I thought he would. I was mostly impressed. He has some real arm talent and can put the ball anywhere on the field. Every throw is open to him, unlike Tolzien. He had impressive placement on some. Mobile, but more importantly, strong ... you need to shed some tackles behind Colts OL. But the reason he's a QB2 is that he just doesn't see the field very well. Don't see him going through reads like Luck would. He's still new, so that will improve, but I doubt it improves much. Think he'll prove limited by his tendency to lock on, but still a high-end QB2 ... which is the point.

2. I'm not going to criticize Chud too much for the gameplan today; he had one hand tied behind his back. But it would be nice to design something unique for Marlon Mack.

3. The WRs on this team are just so damn soft. I'm tired of it. I think it stems from lack of leadership. No coincidence, this group has been soft as butter ever since Reggie Wayne left.

4. I'm really encouraged by Quincy Wilson and Malik Hooker. Every time Wilson gets beat, he was at least in position to make a play but either didn't locate the ball or just missed. He's always in the right place. You don't see him trailing 10 yards like Greg Toler, or just playing off the ball 10 yards because he's afraid he'll give up a big play.

Hooker looked good today and the two actually combined on a few PBUs, which I liked. But I think Hooker is actually playing TOO deep. Colts need more help in the intermediate depth than 20+ yards downfield, IMO.

I think this is where having any one of Butler or Geathers back would really help, though.

5. Only real issue with the front seven today is that ILBs are still the glaring weakness we know them to be. They just suck, if we're being honest. And problem is, Colts need to address LT and pass-rusher too much in draft to really draft a super dynamic ILB, so we may be looking at another year of this.

6. Kenny Moore shouldn't be on this team tomorrow. If accountability really matters, he was at fault for 2 of the 3 biggest Colts mistakes of the game -- his terrible zone drop depth on 3rd & 20, and his fair catch interference. Also he just sucks, so there's that.

7. I really like Al Woods. I'm afraid he's at his peak and it only goes downhill from here, but it's nice to have a fat guy you just don't fuck with in the middle for once.

8. That was the most consistent pressure the Colts have generated since before Robert Mathis' Achilles injury. I expect pressure to be inconsistent, but they finally have some nasty players who can rock OL and make things interesting. Still don't have a lot of speed or athleticism, though, unless Basham comes on later.

9. Just me, or does Quan Bray look slower/worse than last year? Granted, I think any returner is set up to fail for this team becau.se they can't execute basic blocking assignments ever, but I don't see why Bray won out over Natson based on today's game.
Good post. I would just like to add one thing.

Just watch Kenny Moore in coverage in the 4th qtr. He fucked up at least 3 plays by my count w/poor coverage. Why was he even out there?

Wilson, Hairston and Melvin seemed to be holding their own, so I;m not sure why Moore was even playing?
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1. Pagano still sucks.

2. Constanzo is awful.

3. Moncrief is not making big money after this season.

4. Hilton is overrated.

5. Brissett is better than Tolzien.

6. The young DB's need more experience, but are trending upward.

7. Colts should have hired Arians.

8. Pagano still sucks.
Hiring Arians wasn't an option
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Hiring Arians wasn't an option
I know, but I'd rather have Arians over Chuck everyday of the week.
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I am much more encouraged this week than last week.

I really think the D is on the right track and last week was just an coaching embarrassment due to not wanting to start Wilson and Hooker. Once Vontae Davis is back I really think the secondary is pretty solid. Even on the play for the long TD today, the coverage was there, was a great pass and catch. Multiple plays where the secondary knocked the ball away.

The one downside was they dropped two easy INTs, both deep in AZ territory and both probably could have been return TDs.

The problem is the LBers still cannot cover underneath or over the middle worth shit. Kills them. And still not enough of a consistent pass rush

The run D has been solid two games in a row. The DL is much improved.

Brissett did better than I expected. The WRs killed him. Moncrief dropped three key passes. Sucked awful today. TY HAS to get that first down, you can stumble there.

OL is still bad. Kelly returning will help, but its still a work in progress, as it has been for 5+ years now.

The upside so far is : the division still sucks. Three teams at 1-1 Houstons office still stinks. Not sure if anyone else watched Watson against Cincy, he doesn't look that good. The one long TD run and not much in the air. The two losses are nonconference games so far, those are the least important, still only one game back in the division, its still very winnable.

This is a game where if Luck plays I think its an easy win.
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OL is still bad. Kelly returning will help, but its still a work in progress, as it has been for 5+ years now.
The OL is so weird. There is no consistent good/bad trend to anyone on that unit. Most regress and most are just capable of doing terrible things at any moment. Mewhort was better this week, but scary that the next best OL was probably Vagisil.

Castonzo is ... well, the Colts need to replace Castonzo in 2018. It's just a question of whether they go pass-rusher or LT with that first round pick.
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The OL is so weird. There is no consistent good/bad trend to anyone on that unit. Most regress and most are just capable of doing terrible things at any moment. Mewhort was better this week, but scary that the next best OL was probably Vagisil.

Castonzo is ... well, the Colts need to replace Castonzo in 2018. It's just a question of whether they go pass-rusher or LT with that first round pick.
I thought haeg was good today.

Castonzo will not be easy to replace.
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The OL is so weird. There is no consistent good/bad trend to anyone on that unit. Most regress and most are just capable of doing terrible things at any moment. Mewhort was better this week, but scary that the next best OL was probably Vagisil.

Castonzo is ... well, the Colts need to replace Castonzo in 2018. It's just a question of whether they go pass-rusher or LT with that first round pick.
Castanzo should be in his prime but his play has really declined. I don't know whether it is diminishing physical skills or lack of desire. I never figured he would be the type that gets the fat contract and then lays an egg.
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Castanzo should be in his prime but his play has really declined. I don't know whether it is diminishing physical skills or lack of desire. I never figured he would be the type that gets the fat contract and then lays an egg.
He was never going to be joe Thomas.

He is an average lt.
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