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Old 12-12-2017, 07:57 PM
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Despite the Colts' attempts to sign him over the past week, Colts TE Jack Doyle has plans to test free-agent market, per source.


This is probably for the best. Yes, he's a nice player and it's not like this addition by subtraction by any means, and one could certainly argue over whether he'd be more deserving of a long-term contract over Dwayne Allen, but of all the holes this team has, dedicating significant resources to TE, where resources are already dedicated doesn't seem practical. Allen/Swoope would be a TE duo that I'd expect should do well enough, particularly with the amount we've already invested in WR.

The bottom line is, the amount of money that we'd have to offer him right now to convince him to not even test the FA market is more than we should be giving him, period. If he comes back and is willing to sign at a number that makes sense for us (what we're likely offering him now, as Schefter is reporting the Colts have tried to extend him), then wonderful.
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Old 12-12-2017, 09:05 PM
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Colts have a gazillion dollars in cap space, why are you worried about Doyle versus Allen?

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Old 12-13-2017, 09:07 AM
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I don't think we can judge Doyle based on one season under a bad staff and a back up QB starting all season

He has had some down games, but still has made some good plays all season and has been pretty reliable.

And Dwayne Allen has done nothing in NE. Even when Gronk has been hurt. Had at least one drop I saw in the Miami game, which has been his problem his whole career.
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Colts have a gazillion dollars in cap space, why are you worried about Doyle versus Allen?
It is idiotic
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I don't think we can judge Doyle based on one season under a bad staff and a back up QB starting all season

He has had some down games, but still has made some good plays all season and has been pretty reliable.

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Agree here, except to say that we should judge each player by how they performed this season, taking those factors into account as well.

I think we saw Doyle do his best to step up and deliver under tough circumstances. Can we say the same thing for Kamar Aiken, or TY Hilton.

Without fear there cannot be courage. If nothing else, this throwaway season is telling us about the players we have across all levels of our roster.
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If nothing else, this throwaway season is telling us about the players we have across all levels of our roster.
Not so much with TY and Moncrief. It's hard to grade them when they're playing in Chud's idiotic scheme with a backup QB who is running for his life. And when he isn't running for his life, he has trouble with his progressions and finding receivers down field.
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Not so much with TY and Moncrief. It's hard to grade them when they're playing in Chud's idiotic scheme with a backup QB who is running for his life. And when he isn't running for his life, he has trouble with his progressions and finding receivers down field.
Mostly agree with you. But TY has had some big games with those parameters. I just havent seen moncrief having those impacts. It may be this is what you get with moncrief. I will be interested to see what decision ballard makes with him.
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Mostly agree with you. But TY has had some big games with those parameters. I just havent seen moncrief having those impacts. It may be this is what you get with moncrief. I will be interested to see what decision ballard makes with him.
In that same vein, didnt irsay say something about pags' job was not dependent on win-loss record, but rather on player development? I swear I read that somewhere...

Agree it will be Interesting to see if DM is on this team next year.
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I don't think we can judge Doyle based on one season under a bad staff and a back-up QB starting all season.

He has had some down games, but still has made some good plays all season and has been pretty reliable.

And Dwayne Allen has done nothing in NE. Even when Gronk has been hurt. Had at least one drop I saw in the Miami game, which has been his problem his whole career.

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Doyle has played in 12 games so far (he missed the 49ers game with a concussion), and he already has more catches (64) than he has ever had in his career, and there are still 3 games left to be played.

Out of all of the tight ends in the NFL, only Travis Kelce of the Chiefs has more (73) ........ and Kelce has been targeted 24 more times than has Doyle (108 targets for Kelce, 84 targets for Doyle.)


That statistic alone under the circumstances that you pointed out (a back-up QB and a bad coaching staff) is pretty impressive.


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can't see how anyone can be displeased with Doyle performance or contract wise.
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