Colts NFLPA Report Card

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Probably has to do with available amenities on the plane.

quality of stewardesses?

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Quality of stewardesses ???

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I'm generally not an "old school" type of fan who often points out how much better the game was back in the 50's and 60's (it was different, it wasn't necessarily better), but somebody like Vince Lombardi would probably prefer the airplane stewardesses to be complete bitches to his players to put them in an angry, hostile, and competitive frame of mind for a sport as brutal as football is ...... if the stewardesses were total cunts to his players, and the players subsequently graded the air travel service with an "F", Lombardi probably would have said, "Good job, women ...... thank you very much."

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[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I'm generally not an "old school" type of fan who often points out how much better the game was back in the 50's and 60's (it was different, it wasn't necessarily better), but somebody like Vince Lombardi would probably prefer the airplane stewardesses to be complete bitches to his players to put them in an angry, hostile, and competitive frame of mind for a sport as brutal as football is ...... if the stewardesses were total cunts to his players, and the players subsequently graded the air travel service with an "F", Lombardi probably would have said, "Good job, women ...... thank you very much."

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I was thinking about the looks more than the level of service. However, Deshawn Watson and Justin Tucker probably would want them to provide a full service.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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The "Team Travel" category got an F in 2023, and a D+ in 2025, although I don't even know what that category means ...... you get on a plane to travel to the city of the opposing team's stadium, and if the plane doesn't crash and kill everybody, everybody's happy.

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Originally Posted by Dam8610

Probably has to do with available amenities on the plane.

Originally Posted by apballin

They want the plane to resemble the vehicle they drive.

Therefore, unless the plane has seats like an Escalade and Ruth Chris, or St Elmo isn’t the food offerings …... they’re gonna give it an F.

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The Colts play in Indianapolis, in the Midwest. They play in Europe once every 8 years. So other than that, their longest plane is ride about 2 and-a-half to 3 hours. How many "amenities" do you need ??? Gatorade and some food ??? If you eat before you get on the plane, you don't even need that.


Again, I'm not a proponent of the proverbial "good old days" when people walked barefoot in the snow for 5 miles to get to school every day, but I think that we've gone to the other absurd extreme with some of this nonsense.

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[YDFL Commish]

Fact: The distance between airplane seats, as well as the width and comfort of those seats has declined significantly since 1965.

Fact: The average height and weight of NFL players has increased significantly since 1965.

When you combine these fact of the two eras it's obvious that the players in 1965 were flying in more comfort than the players today.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

FACT: l The distance between airplane seats, as well as the width and comfort of those seats has declined significantly since 1965.

FACT: l The average height and weight of NFL players has increased significantly since 1965.


When you combine these fact of the two eras, it's obvious that the players in 1965 were flying in more comfort than are the players of today.

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Thanks for the info ...... I did not know that.

And that's crazy, about the room being lessened since 1965 ...... if anything, you would think that they would make the seats more roomier because Americans in general have gotten larger.


That said, I'm not sure that there is much that Jim Irsay could do about that, short of designing and building his own custom-made airplanes made specifically for his team to travel on.

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[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Fact: The distance between airplane seats, as well as the width and comfort of those seats has declined significantly since 1965.

Fact: The average height and weight of NFL players has increased significantly since 1965.

When you combine these fact of the two eras it's obvious that the players in 1965 were flying in more comfort than the players today.

Did NFL teams fly on chartered airplanes back then? They do know, and the seats are larger and more spread out than the standard commercial planes that us schmucks have to fly on. Despite the overall low travel score, 59% of the Colts players said they have a comfortable amount of space on flights.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Did NFL teams fly on chartered airplanes back then? They do know, and the seats are larger and more spread out than the standard commercial planes that us schmucks have to fly on. Despite the overall low travel score, 59% of the Colts players said they have a comfortable amount of space on flights.

Yes, all NFL teams do have chartered flights, except the Patriots and Cardinals, who own their own planes. The Pats had two planes for a time, but both were dated and small. They have since cut down to one plane and also do not grade well in team travel. The Cards of all teams, seem to have a large modern plane, and grade very well in team travel.

So, perhaps the issue the players have, is that they are flying on small dated charter flights. After all the airlines are surely losing money on these charters.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Did NFL teams fly on chartered airplanes back then? They do know, and the seats are larger and more spread out than the standard commercial planes that us schmucks have to fly on. Despite the overall low travel score, 59% of the Colts players said that they have a comfortable amount of space on flights.

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So the room/space isn't an issue for more than half of the Colts players ...... thanks.

It's probably linemen and linebackers that say that they need more room.

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[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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So the room/space isn't an issue for more than half of the Colts players ...... thanks.

It's probably linemen and linebackers that say that they need more room.

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That or they're divas. I wouldn't doubt someone like Franklin or Mitchell would bitch about their chartered seat being too small b/c it doesn't fold all of the way back into a bed.