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Old 07-12-2023, 04:09 PM
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Over on Horseshoe Heroes, someone named John Makuch makes his case for Andrew Luck to be inducted into Canton. On some level, he’s right. Luck was a transcendent player; no Quarterback in the hall was more skilled, more tough, more intelligent. He posted elite numbers, and he elevated a mediocre team to playoff contention on sheer force of will.

That having been said, his career wasn’t cut short by some tragic accident or incident. He walked away from the game and left an organization twisting in the wind. Was he hurt? Sure. But he might have decided to sit out the year and rested his body. The Colts were building an Offensive Line that could have, finally, given him protection.

But, for whatever reason, he only played 5 1/2 seasons, and didn’t build the kind of body of accomplishments that propel a player into the hall. When looking back at Luck’s career, Hall Of Fame voters and Colts fans are reduced to talking about would’a, could’a, and should’a.
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Over on Horseshoe Heroes, someone named John Makuch makes his case for Andrew Luck to be inducted into Canton. On some level, he’s right. Luck was a transcendent player; no Quarterback in the hall was more skilled, more tough, more intelligent. He posted elite numbers, and he elevated a mediocre team to playoff contention on sheer force of will.

That having been said, his career wasn’t cut short by some tragic accident or incident. He walked away from the game and left an organization twisting in the wind. Was he hurt? Sure. But he might have decided to sit out the year and rested his body. The Colts were building an Offensive Line that could have, finally, given him protection.

But, for whatever reason, he only played 5 1/2 seasons, and didn’t build the kind of body of accomplishments that propel a player into the hall. When looking back at Luck’s career, Hall Of Fame voters and Colts fans are reduced to talking about would’a, could’a, and should’a.
He did have a lacerated kidney, which could have killed him if he was somewhere outside a big city with available surgeons.

No to the hall of fame. Not from a lack of effort, no AFC titles, No Super Bowl. I loved watching him play, he gave everything. Put him on a team with Polian, Dungy and Mudd he plays 15 years.

Numbers dont lie, he was very good, but the length of a career is lacking
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Definitely not HOF, but a remarkable player
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Terrell Davis was inducted based on four seasons. Kurt Warner was inducted based on three seasons. I don't particularly agree with those inductions, but the reason for them is the drama of their circumstances. Luck didn't have that.

He was probably on his way... But as little as he played, he would've had to romanticize his way in like those guys.
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Terrell Davis was inducted based on four seasons. Kurt Warner was inducted based on three seasons. I don't particularly agree with those inductions, but the reason for them is the drama of their circumstances. Luck didn't have that.

He was probably on his way... But as little as he played, he would've had to romanticize his way in like those guys.
I still maintain that he needed three to four more years on the same trajectory. Heck, if he had, I think the Rivers year would have been the year to play in the SB again.
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No Luck does not have HOF credentials. IF Luck deserved to be in the HOF then his best argument would be if Bert Jones were in the HOF, which he isn't and never will be.
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No HOF for Andrew...you don't get in on what might have been!
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Terrell Davis was inducted based on four seasons. Kurt Warner was inducted based on three seasons. I don't particularly agree with those inductions, but the reason for them is the drama of their circumstances. Luck didn't have that.

He was probably on his way... But as little as he played, he would've had to romanticize his way in like those guys.
Ended in Super Bowl wins.
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Terrell Davis was inducted based on four seasons. Kurt Warner was inducted based on three seasons. I don't particularly agree with those inductions, but the reason for them is the drama of their circumstances. Luck didn't have that.

He was probably on his way... But as little as he played, he would've had to romanticize his way in like those guys.



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Kurt Warner's induction was not based on just 3 years. In addition to the 3 through-the-roof seasons that he had with the Rams from 1999 through 2001 (2 of which ended in Super Bowl appearances), he also led the Arizona Cardinals to their first world championship/Super Bowl appearance since they were the Chicago Cardinals in 1948......and in the process, he threw for 4,583 yards in the regular season that year. That was in 2008, 9 years after he led the Rams to a Super Bowl in 1999. He followed that up by leading the Cardinals to another division title in 2009 before retiring. Warner had a higher career QB-rating than Luck, and 40% of his career was played prior to 2004, when they changed the rules drastically to help QB's and their receivers to prevent what happened in the 2003 AFC Championship game, when Patriots defenders got away with mugging Colts receivers for the entire 4 quarters.

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